The Controllable Rollable - CES 2021, Moto G Stylus, TCL NXTPAPER, Kyocera Duraforce, LG Rollable By All About Android

Coming up on all about android, it's me Jason Howell Ron, Richards, Florence ion and our guest Ben shone from nine to five google. It is Consumer Electronics Show 2021 week all digital, so we've got a lot to talk about Samsung, Motorola, TCL, lg, fossil Kyocera and the satisfied app. What is that you say? Well, you're going to have to watch to find out all about. Android is next podcasts. You love from people. You trust this is twit hello and welcome to all about android episode, 507 recorded on tuesday, January 12, 2021, your weekly source for the latest news hardware and apps for the android, faithful, I'm Jason Allen, and I'm Ron Richards, and I'm floor and Zion hi guys, hello boy.

We got some night. We got some ghosts in the system, technologically speaking the pre-show. Sometimes you want to tune into the pre-show because we have lots of fun, and we make jokes, and we have side conversations everything today. It would have been a half an hour of kind of hell, troubleshooting all the many issues, but I think we have it all dialed in and so let's hope this doesn't uh cascade into the show itself, because it's CES week, woo uh, it's digital. Is it CES week? Oh yeah, sorry, I'm trying to find some excitement for CES this year.

It's kind of hard to do, but I know our guest is super. Pumped it's been shown from nine to five. Google welcome to the show Ben glad to be here thanks for having me again, yeah anytime. We can bring you on for CES, but also the super exciting digital version of CES, which I've I've realized I'm overhyping it. But how do you feel about it? You've been you've been to the in-person CES before how? How is it going this year, comparatively speaking, yeah it is just, doesn't make the same impact now.

Uh everything feels less exciting and yeah. I mean it's all the same information, but it's just not as exciting yeah. It's its really, really hard to replicate, that feeling of landing in a new city and going to the hotel and seeing people with their badges on and then getting closer to the convention center and seeing those signs and then getting into the convention center and feeling overwhelmed like you can't as I know, they're doing it virtually because they have to because of the world. We live in that right now, but you cannot replicate that and it's so frustrating I feel for I feel for you Ben yeah. No, because, even for me, I've just been.

I always take some time to just walk the floor and search around and see if I can find something I've never heard of, and I can't do that- that's what I miss yeah I mean. We've talked about it a little on the show you know and kind of made. The guess like is this just the way these conferences are going to be going forward, and you know there's certainly people out there that are like well, you know it's hard to put the genie back into the bottle. Certain companies are going to feel like it's. It's a know, it's too much money wasted.

Let's say to go to a big convention where you can just make. You know, make your announcements online and everything like that, but there's just something about that in person experience not just from a from the point of view of like. Oh, when you see a product in person, and it's a wowie kind of product like it makes a deeper impact, but just the communication, the person to person. You know whether it's someone you know in the industry, which is definitely a big part of what I have enjoyed about CES, but also just talking with the people who are passionate about their products, as opposed to just seeing this like list of products on a screen. Everything just kind of feels like a press release and it's kind of a snooze fest.

So there it is pony, show there are no dogs to show off no ponies. Well, it's just so tough, because you can't, I mean like so much of CES. Is that hands-on experience right and like feeling the tactile? You know kind of holding the phone or seeing that 190-inch TV or like all that sort of stuff, and so I don't I'm optimistic, I'm optimistic that there will be a return to the spectacle that we once uh know and love, but I do agree with you Jason. I think it might be awhile um, but hopefully we're still around for it yeah, but yeah we'll certainly find out um all right well. So this is an episode dedicated to the things that are android uh happening at CES, 2021 uh.

So you know it's all hardware. So why don't? We uh start things off right away with hardware before we get into it after the past couple of weeks of it being devoid of any stuff to talk about I'm kind of glad, we've got virtual CES yeah, that's true, that's true. At least we have some like slate of news and uh, and also I should also point out. I'm I'm guessing a good 85 90 of the rundown today was written by you Ben at nine to five google because you're covering this stuff pretty closely. So we appreciate a getting you on and b that you wrote so much about it so that we can throw uh some eyeballs your way but Flo.

Why don't you start with the first story? Well, this one's really fun! So if you are looking for something to do Thursday morning, you can join me and Jason we're going to be here covering the Samsung event bright and early on the west coast. Uh east coast time is a little more. A little more of the usual variety.9 a. m: right no 10 a. m! On the east coast, 7 a.

m, on the west coast, there's a Samsung unpacked event. This Thursday we're going to be seeing the unveiling of the galaxy s21, the galaxy s21 plus, and the much rumored galaxy s21 ultra with the s pen support. This is the device that's supposed to repost to completely kick the note out just coming sliding right in to help satiate those folks who want an uh who won an s pen now the galaxy s 21 packaging is leaking around town and so just goes to show, even with a virtual CES. There's still plenty of leaks. This time they're showing off a slim box which is kind of confirming what we knew about the lack of headphones and charger.

So something to think about, if you are gunning for a new galaxy, s21 Samsung has already in an effort to sort of really push through this ecological narrative, they're announcing the galaxy upcycling at home, so there will be optional. Software updates for older galaxy devices to kind of help. Keep those engines running. You can also repurpose the device for either a baby, monitor a home security camera protected by no xor a light detector for automatically turning on smart lights via smart things. Now I love this idea, and I'm super looking forward to trying this out.

I have some old gs8s and gs7s lying around here, and I really want to try this out because I feel like this is kind of a genius way to get people to stay in your ecosystem and also have a way to say, look we're giving people a reason to keep using our devices past the lifetime. I mean this is, I feel like this is a little more exciting than maybe some new device news coming out. What do you guys think yeah, I'm interested in uh like I's like? I want more than these three, like it's a great start, I suppose because I, when I think of old devices, I'd like I've thought about this myself as well, trying to figure out like how can I actually make this old device usable and I can come up with a lot of ideas, but then, when it comes to executing on that, like the details kind of come into play, it's like, oh, but then, if I'm going to like set this up as like a security camera. That means I need to like to run a power brick to this phone, and you know mount it all kind of wacky like on the wall or whatever. It's like the details, kind of come in and shatter my dream of what it could possibly be but uh, but I think, but I totally respect Samsung for kind of uh making it official.

So it's not something that has to be like a hack job that someone figures out. It's kind of like flash, this uh system update and our phone will do these things for you, and suddenly it's usable instead of just being junk in your drawer. Well, a regular person is not going to go through with that. Oh, no and try and fuss with it if Samsung is doing something. That's like literally onboarding it.

For you and saying like set this and this up, I mean that is the key right there, yeah Ben. What do you think about the the packaging aspect of things? The fact that uh, you know the well it seems anyways like the slim box, is, is more confirm confirmation that there won't be a power brick there um won't be the headphones. I always really like the headphones that shipped with Samsung products. I always thought they were perfect inbox headphones as far as their you know, those types of headphones are concerned, but how do you feel about the move to remove these things from packaging, and it seems like a trend? That's that's beginning, and I agree with you in the earbuds, but as far as removing the charger goes, I think it's. It is in the long term a better uh thing to do um.

I just hope that Samsung does not go apple's route and just says hey. If you do need a charger, here's a code to get one from the website or something like that, because some people are still going to need it um yeah, absolutely I mean honestly same goes with earbuds, but I doubt they'll do that uh right yeah in the long term. It's definitely a good thing. It's just it's going to sting for a few people for now kind of like the headphone jack. Although some of us can't ever let that go well, I feel like there always needs to be something that's going to sting for a while right.

Like that's been the that's been the trend. The past couple of years is like we're. Gonna, take one thing away to remind you that we control you and uh. That's gonna sting! So sorry about that. It's going to sting uh.

Another thing that I saw today that I forgot to put in the rundown so Burke I've just added if it's in that little Samsung section is a link to a sammobile. com article that seems to show so what we know or what we've heard about the s21 ultra is that it's going to have the s pen support, and you know, as a result, the note series is going to go away uh from what we've heard. Anyways. No more note. Instead, the s20, you know the s series ultra variant is going to have s pen, support um, but this article, like I put it in there because there's a leak on a case design that kind of shows that the s pen, instead of embedding itself inside the device, it's uh the device.

It's going to be embedded into the case, and I'm not sure that I saw that coming though I didn't really think about it is too hard like. Where would the s pen go uh? Do you think note? Fans are going to feel like that's a little tacked on or be happy with, that or and just in general. Do you think nope fans are gonna, feel okay uh, with whatever the differences might be between an s series phone with s, pen, support and a true note with s pen support? I don't know that that that case renders is giving me real, strong uh trio, vibes, um, right, okay, remember the little pen that used the stylus that used to go down into the trio, but that was still inside the trio that which true it wasn't a case. In a case yeah I mean it probably doesn't matter that much unless you really want to use your device without a case and uh. Here, your only option is to have the case and that's where the s pen embeds itself it just.

I think what it does, what I realize as I'm looking at it is. It really makes the s pen, which used to be like a key feature of the note series like this is the reason that you get a note. It now totally feels like an additional accessory, that's kind of playing second fiddle to something. I don't know what that something is because that used to be the differentiator uh. So I just wonder how nope fans are gonna feel about uh, the loss of the note and if there's gonna, be any functionality differences between these two have.

I don't know that we've heard about that particular aspect of things, whether there's going to be functionality. Differences between what the s pen can do on the ultra versus the note series, but I suppose we won't have to wait for it. Yeah, that's a good question because I like they probably won't be able to charge it as easily uh. If it's in a case yeah, that's a good point yeah, so the Bluetooth functionality might be gone. I will say one thing I do like about it is that, because it's not embedded in the phone, the pen can be a little bigger, which might make it more comfortable to use.

Oh okay, yeah! That's true! That's actually a perfect point um, because I've, I've kind of you know. I guess I've adapted to the fact that the s pen is the size that it is, but it's definitely not large enough for my hands. It always feels like a little twig and uh so yeah. Maybe that's a little twig, that's a great comparison yeah, so maybe that uh, maybe that will allow for a larger s pen. Well, we don't have to wait very long to see uh again.

Uh live coverage. Twitter TV, slash, live this Thursday, starting at 7 a. m, pacific flow and me, so you can check that out right on I'm going to miss it. I'm bummed I couldn't join, but uh yeah, I'm also bummed. I missed out on Motorola's new debuts um.

Furthermore, I feel like last week we were talking about whether like the companies will stick to the calendar that we've grown used to, and I feel like Motorola, even though it is CES week is out of the gate. Um sharing their Moto G devices I feel like earlier than they usually did. Do I don't know if this always happened in January um, but Motorola unveiled four new devices um from the g line, uh the Moto G stylus, which is 299 dollars um, and it's? This is the phone with a dumb stylus, and it's running a snapdragon 678 4 gigs of ram 12, gigabyte storage, uh, no 5g support um the Moto G power uh, which is for sale for 199. It's got a 5 000 William battery running a snapdragon 662 three or four uh gigabyte ram and 32 or 64 gigabyte storage um, so that one packs a punch. If you need a long battery life uh, the Moto G play 169 dollars, which is actually the most affordable of all.

This bunch running a snapdragon 460 with three gig ram and 32 gig storage and then the new one that I think is fascinating. Uh, the motor one 5g ace, that's the dynamic title: it's the ace um! You can get that for 3.99, and it's basically Motorola's Pixel 4a. It's running a snapdragon 750 g with four or six gig ram and 64 or 128 gigs of storage um, and no promises on future updates uh. Along with that, so I mean I, I give Motorola credit. They continue to cultivate and grow the mid to low range of phones, um, you know, and so, if you're, in a situation where you have a teenager, and you just need to give them a phone that works, you know that Moto G play works really well.

If you want a low-priced phone with a heavy with a with a hefty battery, that power works, really great um and then stepping up to the uh OnePlus word or the Pixel 4a kind of realm, with a 400 phone to give a little more bang for the buck, but not a flagship. I don't know I always like what Motorola does with these phones, and I'm impressed, despite not being able to hold them myself, uh Ben. What do you think of this lineup for 2021 for the affordable phones for Motorola? I'm not impressed they're the stylus and the power are probably going to be fine budget phones. I liked the ones last year, um enough, but I don't know it's its it's getting hard to say: hey go, buy a Moto G when the Pixel 4a exists for 350 and gives you four three years of updates where these are getting android 11 and that's probably it yeah yeah, it's funny. It's funny.

You mentioned that actually, because I ran into this recently where I was working with someone who had um. I forget what I forget, what how far back, but it was within three years, like a 2017 Motorola G phone and um they're, trying to use an app that required them to be on android, 10 or higher, and just Motorola has no. You can't upgrade the phone at all through. You know like that. He never got.

The update from his carrier ultimately ended up uh, getting a Pixel 4a to replace it like it was just a dead phone. It was outdated. It was stuck in android 8. So that's! I guess. Buyer, beware well, and also, at least, if you buy a pixel you're getting you're getting a quality phone, I mean photos, it takes it's great.

I've never had a good experience with a Motorola phone as a replacement for what I truly wanted. If that makes sense, I always feel like I had to make some concessions because that's where they were putting their niche um, and I also I'm very curious to see how I'm curious to see how they're going to outlast this new influx of you know economical devices that are coming through because we're seeing that you can get quality for a lot lower than you used to be able to. So how are you going to compete with that? Putting out 300 phones that act like 150 phones, so to speak, yeah, yeah, um yeah. I mean I'm looking at this one 5g ace, and you're right, like the direct comparison, is to the 4a or the word, but I mean to me the camera. The camera capabilities had better be really great, which I'm not necessarily sure that Motorola devices ever really have an amazing camera system.

You know built-in, I don't think they, especially in the g level. I don't think they have an amazing camera system, but they've done a perfect, a perfect job of keeping the phones as close to stock as possible with some minor, you know, kind of their own little Motorola touches and tweaks to it. And the thing is that really I mean if you have someone who's looking in shopping for a new phone. If you have someone who's, you know fresh to the line. Maybe they choose the Pixel 4a over this, but if you have someone who's gone from Motorola phone or Motorola phone or Motorola phone through Verizon or whatever they're, just going to roll to the next one, you know and maybe not even consider, jumping to a different brand right.

It all has to do with that that audience loyalty aspect of it so yeah that is very true all right, so Motorola's got their family of devices and uh up next we're going to talk a little a bit about syllables, of course, also some TV's kind of surprised to talk about some TVs and yes, all right so uh Ron. Why don't you start us off with lg? I do love the syllables, I'm all I'm on board the rollable train uh. So we've already talked about this a couple of weeks ago, um but lg's continuing with their explorer project with the lg rollable lg has confirmed this will go on sale in 2021, so this is the year. This is the year of the rollable everybody um, and this might make it the first rollable to market outside of concepts like the TCL, rollable um- and I don't know, I'm excited uh Ben. Are you on the rollable train or do you think? Do you think it's a gimmick, or do you think it's actually potentially the future of uh these device interfaces? I mean I love foldable, I'm a Galaxy Z, fold owner, but uh syllables look interesting, um.

I definitely want to give this a shot, because I think it might be a better solution for some people, because it has the potential to be more durable um, but at this it has the potential, but I'm not sure um. Furthermore, I don't know how much I see use uh being useful from lg's concepts. Furthermore, I know we'll get to the TCL one that extends vertically, but I think that's a better idea. Yeah. Furthermore, I don't know it's interesting to see how they're adapting the rollable concept and to your point, which way it goes.

You know, and in terms of this one it's going, you know kind of you know for the bigger kind of uh, almost tablet-esque, that it pulls in uh to a slimmer kind of phone thing. Um. You know the controlled role is. What I find is what I find interesting, because, because uh so much with the foldable was that you know the fact that people were trying to break it, but like with the controlled role, it is a contained kind of system uh. That really to your point, I think, will end up being more durable and give you more screen real estate um for different use cases.

You know like reading or video games, or things like that versus using the phone for messaging or that sort of thing so um, I think it's. I love the rollable stuff and I want to see more of it yeah and the props to lg for um, going down this road with its explorer program and actually creating devices that it's putting out there, that you know that it's like yeah. This is weird like the uh, the wing. That was really weird. I remember the first time I saw that the video of the wing in action.

I totally thought it was a fake. Furthermore, I was like there's no way. This is an actual phone uh. It turned out. Oh, yeah.

It's part of the explorer program and by the way, you're going to be able to buy it here in like a couple of weeks or whatever the turnaround was so lg's committed, and I give them full credit for being committed to their explorer program and not just putting out concepts, even though they really are. It's almost like they're, their market, um they're doing live market research on these concepts, putting them out to see how people respond to it, but uh full yeah, total props to lg for being so committed to the explorer project because uh they are actually putting out their devices that are very different and very interesting, and I don't know how necessary it is. But it's neat well, I feel like it's a perfect distraction from everything going on too um, and it's a good way to kind of buy some time till you figure out the next big flagship and what the next big whopper is going to attempt to be. If there is any, if there even is one, maybe lg will decide to just become sort of a niche android phone maker, which I would be fine with, because then at least I know what to expect, do you think we're going to see a lg wing two like do you think they're going to continue down that road or be like yeah. We tried that this is what this is what the research led us to it.

Let us do the rollable, or I wonder if it will replace the v series as sort of the creator phone like it'll have you know, because it has like the whole gimbals mode, and they did a lot of very video centric software tweaks to it. So I wouldn't be surprised if they went down that niche and just decided to do kind of what, like sorry for the comparisons lg, but to kind of do what Samsung is doing. With the note um I mean. I think that, even though we're having this virtual CES there's actually a lot of these tiny little hints that we have that the companies are really trying to do something. A little different- and that gives me some hope for when we come out of this there's going to be some very interesting devices that will be sort of ruling the helm in the sort of sense like directing the design yeah going forward the next couple of years.

I just feel like it's gonna, be a different phone market. Once everybody's vaccinated yeah yeah, we will certainly find out so what else is uh lg up to Flo? Well, lg is going all in on the TV which makes sense. This is something that they're very good at so uh. They dropped some TV news during this virtual CES. They are adding Stadia support to their web OS uh platform, which is effectively what runs on their TVs.

Now the 2021 and 2020 TVs running web OS, 6.0 and web OS 5.0 will support Google Stadia so essentially, this is going to turn the TVs into a set-top box, a built-in game console you go, and you buy not only your screen, but you're also buying something to play with that's included in the price. This service will be available on those sets later this year. In a native app lg also announced that NVIDIA's GeForce now will work on these sets by the end of the year as well. So there will be two sorts of cloud gaming platforms that you can tap into, and I think why didn't any of us think of this happening. I mean this is such an obvious way to take this um and I wonder if it'll actually help Stadia find any sort of like proliferation.

Just by immediately having it included, I mean what do you guys think? Well, Ben, I think that's a that's a question that I'm curious to know. Uh your take on it. You know because, well I don't know, I'm unaware if you've spent a lot of time with staid, I feel like. Maybe you have but uh like what are your thoughts? What do you think it yeah? What do you think it needs like? Do you think this is uh? This is good for the platform. I think it's great um, because the whole vision behind Stadia and cloud gaming in general is just I don't have to own a console.

I don't have to own a set top. Furthermore, I can literally just pick up the device I own and play games, and this is the biggest way to fulfill that vision, because right now you still like right now. If you want to play state on your TV, you need a Chromecast ultra and then, in a couple of months the uh Chromecast with Google TV. But if they just say, if you know they get with lg, they get what Samsung they get with. Whoever is making smart.

It would be amazing if they did Roku, but if it's just on your TV already, it's they can. A game maker can say: hey all right. Here's our new game. It's on Stadia! You don't own anything. Okay, just open up the app on your TV.

Yes, it's incredible yeah! It's that's the future for a game and go and it yeah and it, and it will open the avenue for other people who would have never, who maybe don't want to bring in some gigantic PS5 into their house or try and like deal with that, trying to just find a console right now, a person who's, maybe interested in playing. Maybe somebody who's. Like god. I would love to see what assassin's creed is all about, but I don't want to invest in this whole like system, so you could just pop into Stadia and spend 50 bucks and have your experience if Google would include with sales of these TVs a rebate. That would include a controller, oh yeah, that would be huge right, because then people have literally everything, because people would still have no excuse.

Yeah, yeah yeah, you kind of have no excuse, of course, you'd redeem that for the free controller um, it's almost like giving away the giving away the razors- and you know having people buy the blades. You know it's kind of similar thing I don't know if they'll do that, I'm not saying that. That's that's part of the news, but that would be a great way to increase uh. You know the user ship uh of the stadium service yep. So who knows um well, lg is not, not alone.

I know. Uh Sony also has uh the Google TV interface TCL go away. Google TCL is also adopting the Google TV interface on its uh 2021 models, uh starting uh well at least starting here in the US uh expected to hit the TVs, their TVs first in the US release. Dates are unknown, but I think it's interesting that we're seeing more and more of these TVs at CES, getting the new Google TV, interface and uh. I don't know, I think, that's that's that's a positive thing, because I actually really like the Google TV interface compared to the android TV interface of days gone by, which is why I tossed out the box, it's officially in the toy box for money to play with excellent yeah.

It's its a toy. It's for her place, officially a toy it's just for her to suck on, because I just that's where it goes when, when I'm done with it, it goes into the toy bin, and so the Chromecast of google TV has been installed. Excellent. What happens yeah when you fail? That's what that's what you get me box? That's what you get! You get a little baby playing with you roughly, like a toy. By the way you triggered my smart speaker over here, just FYI yeah.

I triggered my phone somewhere. I know I didn't say OK, but that doesn't well. Apparently you said something close to it that it triggered me over here too. So sorry about that TCL actually had a lot of news. It seemed like- and I think I only put a couple of the news bytes in here, of course, the TV news that I just mentioned- we talked we mentioned briefly earlier Ben.

I think you mentioned the uh, the rollable tablet concept, and this is actually fascinating because it's not just rollable. It's like a scroll uh. So literally- and I feel like this has been a topic of conversation on this show before where we would finally get to the point to where it's like a pulling out scroll and that's exactly what it is burked. If you, if you um scroll down on the page, you will get to an uh, an animated, uh GIF of the scroll in action below that. So that's it pulling and then scroll down below that even, and you will find this- it doesn't even look like it doesn't look weird.

It's nuts versus the older early prototypes that we had like in the early 2010s were very just sort of uh. They looked like they looked like they were really just they were very unvarnished. They were very rough right and this looks nice. It looks approachable uh, the mechanism itself, that behind it looks a little chunky, doesn't it a little chunky display itself looks much more approachable. I think.

But yes, I agree with you. It's still it's chunky compared to what we're dealing with now it does look like an old-timey scroll. You know like back in the Shakespearean times or whatever, where they expand that and then the thing comes out of it, and so I kind of like that historical relevance that it might have um. This is glorious this I, the the age of the rollable is I'm I'm just all in on it. I couldn't be more excited and, and Ben TCL's been really active with um a lot of their different reference designs and everything are so.

I know that they're active in showing everybody hey. This is what we're working on check out all these different, unique things that we're doing, but I'm having a hard time pointing to anything that's like, and this is what it led to your knowledge. Are they coming out with, like, like the phones that they announced at CES, are very much not this right. They're very much like I had to like fight to try and find anything unique about them, they're pretty basic uh. Are they actually ever going to release these devices to your knowledge, uh? I think they very they've said in the past that uh right now.

It's just concepted, proof of concept. You know we're capable of this, but uh it's going to be awhile it's yeah they're, definitely not ready yet um, but it's interesting to see where they're going with it and I hope, yeah and like the one that we're showing on screen the one that scrolls that, like spans upward, I think, is a genius idea. It's I think it's uh, like you know you have the Galaxy Z flip, which gets smaller by folding, but that seems way more practical, just rolling the screen up to get more screen um. So I hope that one comes to market, but I don't think they have officially said anything about bringing any of these syllables foldable whatever to market yeah they're capable they're capable of prototyping these things and not just like here's. A digital render they're capable of coming up with these unique ideas in actual hardware uh that can demonstrate their technology.

I'm just waiting for TCL to then go, and here it is you've, been waiting check it out. You can finally have the scrollable uh that we've been showing off. Maybe that's the idea behind the next paper, which they also showed off. It's an android tablet e-reader, and I'm confused on this one, because they talk about a quote artistic combination of screen and paper, a paper-like visual experience in full color with no flicker and no harmful blue light, essentially they're talking about a display that isn't a traditional display, but it's also not e-ink. It's meant to be an android tablet and an e-reader I at the end of all of that.

I still have no idea what the display actually is uh. What am I missing? What am I missing yeah? This is the device that makes me wish. Ce's was in person, yes, uh, yeah yeah it. It sounds so cool, but I can't tell how it works and like if it's full color, and it's full android does it have any respectable, refresh rate that makes it usable, or it's its real confusing sounds like a good idea. Yeah, yeah! I just want to know more about okay.

Well, if this isn't your standard, you know display, then what is it. It was a lot of jargon and not a lot of like and this, and this is how we can explain it so that you understand it, given that you can't be here turns out, we won't have to wait that long April 2021 is when it's expected to release for 349 euros, um cousin of jean the chat room mentioned the yoda tab and the Yoda phone and everything like yeah that refresh rate you know if it's eating that can be a little brutal on an actual tablet device. So how responsive is the next paper? I'm really curious to see um I'll also mention like for Christmas. I ended up actually getting a Kindle paper white. Furthermore, I never I've never had a Kindle before uh, but I asked for one for Christmas because I wanted a device that was nothing but reading like I want.

Furthermore, I wanted a device that I couldn't find myself heading down a rabbit hole of. Oh, no. Well, while I'm here, I'm going to check my Twitter feed or something, so there's something that I really enjoy about that, because it only does that one thing and when I'm in reading mode I just read, and so something like this is kind of like okay. Well, it's cool that does those extra things, but I kind of don't want it to if it's for reading. I want it to just be a reading device.

I do. Furthermore, I do want to share this. One comment uh, so for those listening and watching the show. Burke is our TV behind the scenes, and we have our little behind the scenes. Chat and Burke did say- and I think this is great- it's with creates mystery, which is not only poetic but also totally true um.

The width does create mystery of this device, so good job Burke. I appreciate it. Thank you. Burke, uh get one and let us know uh if the mystery is destroyed once you finally have one in hand, and let me see it, so I can see the display all right. We've got more hardware, obviously to talk about from CES coming up next.

Here all right, Flo we haven't had a watch on the show in a while and uh you get to talk about it, there's not a lot to talk about. I just don't. Even I just don't even know you all, so fossil is launching a new smartwatch running what else, where OS that long forgotten Android-based version of a wearable software, that no good excuse- I'm sorry, oh my goodness, you're kicking it. While it's down it's just such a disappointment, um, and I'm sorry, but it's true. Another reason this is a disappointment.

Is this fossil launch the fossil gen 5 LTE, which is launching this spring, has a measly snapdragon where 3100 not the recently released 4 100. What is happening? Are we just trying to get rid of old inventory at this point? This is the equivalent of Nordstrom rack carrying like shoes from three generations ago, like that's fine in a clothing store, but this does not work for technology um, one gig of ram aching of storage. So you get a tiny little of a spec bump. There 1.3 inch display with a rotating crown akin to that one. That's on the very popular galaxy active uh.

Second gen there's also two shortcut buttons, and it's going to be 350. : okay, all right, um god, I'm so far out of the loop on where OS I. I'm trying to find the point at which I stopped going anywhere because it's yeah anybody, it's not on a Christmas wish list or even a birthday wish list, it's very down for the chain, and it's very frustrating, because as an android user, I'd love to have just absolute parody between my wearables and my ecosystem of choice. But I would also like to have a smartwatch that I don't have to charge every single day and I still don't have to do that with the galaxy active first gen and by the way that phone that uh watch is on sale at Costco. For like a hundred bucks, oh wow or something maybe 150.

I don't know, but I know a couple folks who got it over the holiday because it was on sale at Costco, and I'm like good choice: cheap yeah, it's a good choice, uh be non the, as far as where OS is concerned, like are you seeing any action in Wear OS that that kind of gets you excited about the the watch smartwatch platform by google, or are you kind of the same boat right now? It kind of feels like everything's hinging on the Fitbit deal. I feel like that's why it feels especially stagnant the past few months is just they're just waiting on Fitbit, so they can work with that and improve from there. But it's going to take time. I've been using a Fitbit uh for the past few months, uh. Instead, because yeah it is, it's definitely stagnant.

I still like a lot of Wear OS. Like I like a lot of the ideas, I like a lot of the hardware but yeah the uh. It is a shame fossils not doing 4100, yet I'm sure they will for the proper gen 6 launch, uh, which I guess would probably be this year um but yeah. I just once the Fitbit deal goes through. I think we'll finally start seeing things change.

How will it be too late by then, because I have to tell you again, I keep drawing from my personal experience, but that's all I have right now uh, but I have another friend who just left the Fitbit ecosystem and joined the Samsung ecosystem. He asked me for my advice and I said it's going to be awhile until we kind of see what google and Fitbit are doing. So why bother waiting? If you need something now yeah, it does seem like yeah. I don't know if it'll be too late, it's its hard to tell um, I think the biggest they're gonna pull off of each other, because you know google, I think where OS in terms of feeling like a modern platform, is better than what Fitbit has but Fitbit's health integrations and the app and all that feel more cohesive together. Yeah.

I'm focused it needs it's going to be awhile and that's unfortunate because, yes, it does mean more people are probably going to switch to Samsung or get used to Fitbit or just not wear a smartwatch, but in the end it might come together or something good and then just have to hope it catches on so google won't pull the plug on it, because they're existing as two different worlds, like Fitbit, is very much. It's always been very fitness-centric. People really liked it because it was easy and approachable, and it tracked exactly what you needed. Uh Wear OS had all these promises back when it was just android wear of the assistant and how that was all going to like move together, and so I feel like for that to really come together. It's going to take a while before we really, I don't.

I mean the most frustrating part of all this. This whole fossil announcement, it's just so that its old hardware, I just I've, seen better things done and not just from Samsung and apple, but like Garmin, has really awesome. Fitness watches, for any type of you, know uh lifestyle and polar has its own watches. It's like what is what do you have to do here to just kind of catch up with what you see, people are already doing really well, so that's why I get a little frustrated also because I would like to use. I would like to have a little bragging rights with my smartwatch.

The way that an Apple Watch person does um. That's a really great platform, there's a reason. So many people use it so yeah fair enough right, yeah. I wouldn't mind having a wearable that uh that I more than wouldn't mind wearing. If that makes sense yeah I wouldn't mind wearing that versus like uh yeah, I'm definitely putting that on my wrist and have a reason for it and not run into any of those speed band speed bumps, but I uh god, like I said I kind of gave up on the wearable thing and uh.

I feel like now, I'm I'm so far outside it that it would take a lot. I'm not sure what it would take to pull me back in. Maybe it is you know, maybe it's kind of similar to my you know my comments on the Kindle like. I could see myself going down the Fitbit route, but that's just because it's a hyper like it's a focused wearable for a very specific thing and again like I just don't know that I need a phone on my wrist anymore. There was a time when that was useful to me and right now I don't feel like that's very useful to me, having a focus.

Maybe so, do you want to be my buddy? Do you still have that Samsung watch because you're still, my only friend on Samsung health, I don't? I don't, have the Samsung watch anymore. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but I'll still be your buddy uh, just not in that app. So, ah all right Ron. You got the next one, all right! Well, uh! You know. We all know that I do love the ridiculous phones uh and, if you're looking for a rugged ridiculous phone, you might want to check out the Kyocera workforce ultra 5g.

That's a lot of action. Word views my title. It was announced during CES, 21 um, and this is a 5g ultra rugged smartphone. It's got a snapdragon 765g with ipx6 and ipx8 dust and water resistance. Furthermore, it's got a sapphire shield display, and it can withstand extreme temperatures and environments uh.

Furthermore, it could be, it could be washed and disinfected, uh and the camera has not just night vision but super night vision and an underwater video mode uh and unfortunately, for you extreme temperature and environment users. There's no release date yet, but start saving. Your money start saving your money because you can get uh the Kyocera workforce ultra 5g uh. You know if you are a mountain biker or a mountain climber or anything involving mountains. I think this is your phone, so you won't even get 5g, though that's the hilarious part is there's no 5g in the mountain.

I will listen, listen. The urban jungle can be just as uh, just as rugged um, 5g Jason. This reminds me of that old, Casio rugged phone that nine years ago. I wanted you to get when you're in the market. For a new phone, do you remember that phone that was like all rugged and like rubberized and whatever yellow super yellow? I forgot the name of it, but anyway, then I would love to get your take on a phone of this magnitude.

Do you think that there's even an audience for this type of phone? I mean they've been doing these for years, the uh Kyocera and other brands have been making these super rugged phones for years uh. This is just the latest version of it. Uh yeah it'll probably sell to some niche users, but I don't think most people are gonna, be remotely interested in this. I've never seen one of these in the wild like just and it's not like, I'm not, I mean I'm in New York city. For Christ's sake, I mean I was in New York city, but I was in New York city.

For Christ's sake, I was on the subway every day. I've never seen one of these actually held by a person yeah. I can see the same. Furthermore, I've never seen one in real life yeah, oh man, I mean I will. Furthermore, I wonder if where, where you see these things are in like uh in construction zones- and you know I mean like in the hands of workers in really kind of volatile the wrong word, but you know really kind of where durability is a requirement for a device, and maybe that's why we don't see these in the hands of people, because we're not hanging out with the people that work in construction zones- or I don't know- but I mean there's- definitely a market for it um.

It's I'm just not part of that market. I don't need a durable phone, I'm I'm uh, just I'm happy uh destroying my phone when it drops on the ground. Uh not really happy. Actually it sucks whenever that happens, but it hasn't happened for a while, thankfully uh, so the Kyocera workforce check it out if you need some extra durability and then finally uh at CES the 2020, the CES 2021 innovation awards. They were announced actually days before the event, but I thought it was kind of an interesting opportunity to name some devices that CES itself called out as uh as innovative devices from the last year, all right, some of the smartphones that they called out uh the ASUS ROG phone three.

They said it was simple, yet futuristic: game-centric design, the lg wing good to have that on there, the lg velvet 5g the TCL 10 5g UW. Furthermore, they said unusual camera design. I'm trying to remember on that one TCL yeah. I can't remember what the camera design was on that one specifically why it was so unique, but it's there, the z, flip 5g, the note 25 g, the 51 5g which they said was a great value and then finally, the OnePlus 8 pro I said the leading mobile smartphone is that to say that they think that's the best of the year. That's interesting, although I suppose that was on some people's top phone of the year uh list.

So, okay, I don't know how like this is like one of the first times that I really paid any attention to the innovation awards. So I don't know how much uh, how much pull or energy is behind that, but um we've certainly talked about a lot of these uh devices on the show in the past, so probably happy that they're being called out by CES. I think, what's more interesting, though, are the four apps that they called out of the innovation. Oh yeah, that's for sure what a yes! So the first one feels like a keyboard that Ron you would have brought into the arena, so type wise custom keyboard, and it's an it's a honeycomb design keyboard, I'm almost 100 certain. I brought this to the arena.

So all right, so you were, you were a trendsetter. Then I was as far as that's concerned. You were ahead of CES yeah, uh, okay type wise. I thought the name sounded familiar, but I couldn't remember: yeah honeycomb keyboard large buttons. The keys are the like.

The keys are ordered differently than you know, a standard qwerty keyboard. So there's a little of getting used to it, but they say uh once you get used to it, you reduce typo 70 to 80 percent. So that's interesting, uh sound ID, which is an app that allows you to dial in a personalized sound profile and that that's kind of based on the equipment that you're using. So if you're using a particular type of headphones, you would create that sound profile for those headphones and that might be different from a different pair of headphones or whatever. I'm not sure how well that works.

I've never tried that myself, but that sounds interesting. Furthermore, I think the winner was an app called easy, which is for epilepsy patients. It's an app that you can use to track seizures. Medication, reminders, data reports, that sort of stuff for your doctor and everything and then finally, there's an app called satisfied. So I thought: CES tried to distance themselves from the AVN's and from uh adult theme things, but here they are embracing the satisfied Jason.

Why don't you tell us about it? The satisfied? It's a sexual wellness, app! It connects to devices. That's all! I'm going to say it has haptic control, long distance device syncing. You can use your imagination as far as what it is, and I have to say the UI is actually pretty nice. It looks good, looks like a good, app um, the long distance device thinking like uh remote control of devices, it's a whole new 21st century right their people. So this is an interesting time that we live in.

So there you go. Sync had a song about this. It was called digital get down um. Of course, they did. And, of course you know that the reviews of this app aren't, particularly they.

They really range uh, but recently folks have been complaining that uh the app doesn't work in the background. Oh, it's got to be in the foreground. That's such a bummer, listen, wow, listen! You're on you're on a video call you're trying to find some intimacy with your long-distance person. You have not seen in a really long time because of a global pandemic. Oh, I want to be able.

I'm just saying you want to look like them. I feel like the app should be. Oh, I see what you're saying so. I was because you're really focused if you're really focused the app should be in the foreground, but if you're also on a video chat on the same device, then you're screwed not literally right. It's not happening so yeah, so you're, not screwed, and I do have to say I know that we've talked about CES trying to move away, but I feel like the move away from you know sexually tinged things but um, but I feel like this could go.

This is a little more palatable yeah! It's yes, hey! There is nothing wrong not like, like. I did see a device a couple of days ago that gizmo do covered. So if you guys want to see you can go to gizmo do, that was like very visceral where it was supposed to be placed and what it was for, and it was specifically for men and performance of the male genitalia versus this. This one feels a little more like equal, like we're in a pandemic. Things are rough.

Why not use the built-in haptic feedback that you have in your phone? I don't know about you guys, but I'm starting to get a little uh a little hot around the collar yeah. I had a feeling that might happen all right, bigger point about how sometimes these things can be kind of sexist, but true, yeah, that's a good point, and it's true uh, but before we get ourselves into any uh any trouble here, why don't we uh move into? Why don't we let you get yourself into trouble with your emails and that's up next, I don't think you're going to be getting yourself into very much trouble, though, with the emails that we have here, Iran wrote into AAA at twit TV and said Jason? Your Christmas gift of a Commodore 64 made me go into my loft and pull out my original ex spectrum.48K complete with light gun and Hampton joystick interface or fan, says I spent many hours playing way of the exploding fist. That's a good game. I spent many hours playing that game too and commando, ah the memories all the best for 2021. Good.

It's its fun going down memory lane when it comes to those old systems. I have had so much fun with that Commodore 64 um re re-release, I'm planning on reviewing it next week on hands-on tech. So if you want to know my full thoughts on this, if you're, if you were ever a Commodore 64 nerds like I was back when I was a kid, then you should uh check out the review next week. Thank you for writing. In our friend, you got something for Christmas, and you're reviewing it.

Well, I mean it's its hard to get like I've. I've tried to find where you can buy this, and it's really hard to locate. You can find the mini version, but not the full size version very easily. The mini version is an it's a similar keyboard. I think it's a little smaller, but the keys don't actually do anything you actually have to plug in an external keyboard.

In order to do anything, this is like a full replica of the Commodore 64. Um Ben. Are you did you? Did you have any experience with the Commodore 64? What was your first computer system or game console? Where does it begin for you uh? My first game console was a Nintendo DS, so, okay, all right. That should tell you quite a bit too much. Actually it was a DSI, so it was uh even later wow I was going to say because the DS came out.

That was a magical year. We had the DS and the PSP came out at the same time, and I think that's when oh yeah, the Wii came out after that, so it was a magical time in Nintendo land, yeah, yeah, big time. That's right, uh yeah! So I don't know anyone who loves the commerce 64 definitely look into this. If you can find one and of course I'm going to review it because well sometimes I'm just looking for something to review, and I would, I'm so happy to be able to review that uh flow. You got the next email all right, so we are still talking about headphones.

There's been kind of a big discussion about headphone earbuds in particular uh. This one comes in from Brian on the TWS headphones. I've gone through quite a few buds from the early ones that charged individually and made me look like Frankenstein's monster to a fancier pair of sabra elites. The sabra definitely has better sound, but you do get what you paid for. That being said, I now check scar beer for all TWS reviews.

He has reviewed literally hundreds of them by the way TWS means true. Wireless stereo, just right, sound, sound, whatever true wireless sound, yeah yeah. He has reviewed literally hundreds of them primarily in the sub 100 range. If they aren't listed there, they're, probably a re-badge. The reviews are thorough and well organized.

Definitely the go-to site for TWS buds, so that URL, just to spell it out for you folks, is scar. Beer s-c-a-r-b-I-r. com, I'm going to open it right here, yeah my browser window. It's really thorough, um, it's very, very easy to navigate uh, there's an easy to see leaderboard, so you can just like to go in there, and it's a landing page to tell you what to get based on your price point: uh, there's pictures yeah! This is the best earbuds for under 25 dollars, wow. What's what is 50 best cheap AirPods alternatives, the USB yeah totally right Ben long, yeah yeah, that's true! That's good! Wow! There are some the mow bit s is listed here as a good uh choice for 25 and under they have five stars wow.

This is uh, that's a cool, uh cool collection, and I mean 196 reviews. It looks like this guy's done uh on this site, so uh his name is Bart bridge or anyways, he's very dedicated to this. Obviously, so uh check out the site. I thought that was a really cool, uh recommendation of a site, I'd never seen, but it definitely looks like a really great resource if you're in great a lot of this stuff by the way is sold on like Amazon and AliExpress, and that's definitely the kind of reviews you want to read, because those sites are becoming more and more prevalent in our you know, that's just where we're going to buy things. There's an Amazon basics version, there's a knockoff version of this, and that, so I appreciate that you know it's hard for big outlets to get to the smaller headphones uh.

It takes a lot of time to sort of test those, so it's always nice to lift a fan made project that can benefit everyone. So thank you for that suggestion. Brian. Thank you, Brian all, right Ron, you had the honors I do. I have the honors of sharing with you our listeners and viewers, the email of the week.

I do love that every time. Thank you, Burke, uh. This week's email of the week comes from friend of the show and friend of twit, uh and Jason. You got to help me with this last name. I always screw it up, but Sam abuela said there.

It is but Sam. I know Sam he's great, it's fantastic, um, Sam, writes it and says I wanted to follow up on last week's discussion of lower cost. True wireless earbuds, I used the sound core liberty news, which are normally just forty-five dollars and frequently on sale for thirty to thirty-five dollars. Uh side note I just looked, and they are 29.99 on Amazon right now, so FYI um, he says Sam says I find them quite comfortable and regularly wear them for six to eight hours a day over the past two years, they sound quite good, probably not audiophile, but my 55-year-old years went through enough performances of ac DC the who and rush among many others in my younger days that anything that good would be wasted on me. They do provide decent, clear base mid and treble and music sounds good to me.

Uh and it's important to note that the sound card liberty Neo, is by anchor and so Sam goes on to say that the anchors are also ipx7 waterproof. They don't have all the fancy features like Google Assistant touch, volume, control or automatic shut off. When I take them out, but that's fine, I can pause the single tap and double tap brings up assistant from the phone. Surprisingly, the mic also sounds perfect and clear, or so I'm told by people I talk to and listen. Sam is a trustworthy voice.

I completely trust them in this. This kind of assessment, um and for 29.99 on Amazon is worth a shot. I mean that that is impulse buy. I was going to say I was going to say that that used to be um, uh, two tickets to the movies uh. Now it's like a night of takeout Chinese.

So, like I think you know you could easily eat uh eat? You could easily eat the cost of 30 um uh 30 for these earbuds. So that's fantastic Sam! Thank you for writing in and congratulations on getting the honor of being the email of the week. This is the sound core liberty, news, uh and Ben. Like have you had much uh spent much time with some of these true wireless earbuds. I feel like I feel like so many of them are coming out now, like I'm, I'm actually getting contacted by people, but you know by different representatives, saying hey: we've got new true wireless, like oh god, I've reviewed.

So many at this point I don't know uh. Do you have any favorites yeah, I'm in the same boat as you? I have so many these drawers up behind me. Uh. There's one for phones and there's an entire one. Now for earbuds most of the ones I use are the more expensive ones.

Uh. Lately I've been using the sabra elite, 85 t uh and another pair. I can't talk about yet um. Okay, fine, I like the expensive ones, are perfect um, but I've I've been impressed that the cheaper ones are getting so good. Um, like the OnePlus bud z that came out over the summer, the 50 bucks, uh they're great um yeah, I'm glad they're getting cheap because they need to be because, if they're going to replace regular earbuds, they can't be 150 bucks, but right uh.

This just makes me want to uh get some more really cheap ones in to uh update. My roundup yeah do some comparisons. Well, I'm curious about the 85 t's like I've. I've used the sabra elite, 65 tees, and then now you know the 75 t's. I always end up.

You know falling onto the 75 t's. I love the sound. They really improve the sound. What do you excuse me? What do you find are different between uh between that and the 85 t's? Now, what have they improved with the 85? Isn't it automatically noise cancellation? Is that right yeah, so it has had an an cum, but the bigger, but actually the 75 t's also have that now too uh through a software update. Oh, shooting update on that.

I didn't know that yeah, it's not as effective as the 85 t's, but it is it does. They do have active noise cancellation now um. But for me, it's one. I like that. The case has uh wireless charging, but mainly it's the ear tip is uh.

It's kind of like an oval shape now, and I just find it fits way better my ear and doesn't have as much pressure on my uh in my ear, so they can enjoy how good they sound, which is about the same as the 75 t's, but I can wear them longer because they're more comfortable to wear like they're they're, my go-to, if I'm you know working on the elliptical or taking a walk or something like that, so they're perfect. I like them a lot super important comfort, is a big uh component of these. You have to find the type of these because they totally run all across the gamut. You know all across the spectrum. As far as comfort and wear is concerned Ron, we already know that you uh, that you don't care for anything in your ear holes, so you would probably- and it really bugs me- because I am getting tired of my pixel bud generation ones- um, they.

You know after it's been several years now they barely hold a very good charge and, like honestly, the cases get is the top is about to break off like I use them um, and I would like a replacement, but I don't like things in my ear, so I don't know, maybe those Samsung jelly beans will be the good solution for me, but yeah. So I also like I also. I also don't need them, though, because now that I've moved, and I'm in my office in my house, and I'm in the suburbs- I literally it's been three days. I haven't left the house, so I don't commute anymore so unless, unless I'm on the train heading back to the city anytime soon post pandemic, I don't need them so yeah. You will want a pair of big cans with ridiculously good active noise cancellation, though, because working with the kiddos, as you know, is oh, I know I'm investing in I'm investing in some audio baffling and a solid door, and things like that yeah right on cool.

Well, we have reached the end of this episode of all about android, CES, 2021 edition um. I'm sure there's going to be more because we're at to be we're kind of like maybe near the halfway point, I suppose, of the digital uh version. I'm sure there will be more announcements, definitely going to be the Samsung announcement uh that we're going to talk about in detail on next week's show uh but Ben shone. Thank you. So much for hopping on with us tonight really appreciate you taking the time and being patient through our technical difficulties earlier uh this evening.

So you've, given us almost a couple of hours of your life, and we really appreciate it uh nine to five google. com for all of your work. If people want to follow you online, where can they find you uh mainly on Twitter, uh at nexuses, uh and yeah? That's pretty much the only social I'm active on anymore, yeah cool, and then I would ask you what you know what you have what you're working on, but I know it's CES stuff, um. Is there anything else you want to talk about? Ah, nothing at the moment, all right I'll, just leave it at that. That was ominous.

I was gonna, say wow all right now, I'm curious. I know how is it that you can say nothing, and I'm super intrigued. You can say I'm not. I've got nothing in the pipeline and I don't believe you uh Ben. We really appreciate it.

Thank you again and flow hat you're working on well or what you got, maybe you're, not working on anything I do want to share. I do want to share with you guys that I did something really fun. A few weeks ago, um I guested on a lifetime movie recap podcast called mother. May I sleep with podcast, which is a play on the movie with Tori spelling mother may sleep with danger uh, so I did an episode of. I did a movie that involves Shannon Doherty attempting to take down a microsoft-like tech company.

So if you're looking for something to do it's a recap podcast, so the whole podcast is just us watching the movie, and it has like clips interlaced and everything. So you don't have to actually watch the movie. We will tell you everything that's going on, and we comment about it the whole time, and it's a lot of fun. We talk about all sorts of random things. Furthermore, we talked about tech.

Furthermore, we talked about Rosie, o'Donnell's, vacation company. Furthermore, we talked a lot about 90210 and the vast knowledge that I have there um, and I was it- was just a lot of fun. So I wanted to point everyone to something very non-techie that I did. That was very fun which is mother. May I sleep with podcast so hold on, there's also my website, florinscion.

com, which I have been actively updating. So, yes, excellent. I just looked up mother. May I sleep with podcast with molly mac. Is it McClair Ali McLaren? Yes, lots of inner.

You know lots of internet uh, friends to sort of google and, like I'm looking it's a three hour and forty minute podcast, because yeah the whole thing it is because we go through the whole. It's its. A've been listening to these very long podcasts lately because we've just been at home, and it's one of those it's one of those that you can put on the background and kind of like you know, come in and now that's great. I love it cool mother. May I sleep with podcast, thank you and have a good rest of your CES week.

I hope you uh. I hope you enjoy the uh, the banal, uh stream of technology that we're witnessing right now, uh Ron. What about you uh before I talk about myself? Flo, have you read this book um? What is it a very special matter? Oh, my goodness, there you go yeah, I just. I just got it from my sister and I thought of you uh. It's perfect.

I actually um have been kicking myself in the butt uh for not writing this yeah. There you go. This is my book idea, and so I'm working on a different idea um, since that one has been, but it's a good book, that is to say, has perfect essays um about 90210, so cool good to know anyway, um beyond that uh. There is not much to talk about me. Uh go! Follow me on Twitter and on Instagram.

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