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Give a new life to use device is a gazelle com. Today. Tech news today is the show we talked about the tech news with the journalists who reported my name is mike Elgar and our co-anchor today is Mashable senior tech. Correspondent, Christina warren, hey, Christina, what's going on, hey Mike, what's up it's a weird morning, and you caught the tail end of one of the most bizarre episodes in the history of life's journalism, I just missed it. What did you see this morning? Okay, so apparently the terrible you know situation happening in San Bernardino, the perpetrators' apartment was opened up by the landlord to the media.

I guess you know, is no longer technically a crime scene and basically the media a whole feeding frenzy. There was MSNBC CNN, the BBC bunch of other outlets are inside, like basically broadcasting live from inside this apartment, going through photographs going through the things that were left there, speculating about who people might be in the photographs. Definitely not the family showing driver's licenses. Unredacted live on the air. It was this as we can see, the video you've got going up that someone had captured off of TDS.

This was happening. It was it's so bizarre. I've never seen anything like this, where a scene like this would be opened up by the landlord who claimed the FBI turn it back over to him. So he said fine media come on in and go through everything and in the media you know, being a media decided to jump on it and literally go through everything and in kind of ransacking this place on live, TV I was alerted to it because my husband was watching, and he was like I can't believe what I'm seeing, so I tuned in, and it's on a bunch of different networks, eventually I think kind of the criticism that started flowing and immediately got them to pull things back. There was actually just it just ended moments.

Before we went on the air, there was a briefing taking place. The White House about the shooting and a member of the press corps asked the White House press officer. You know what their thought was about the media. Doing this and having access to this and the Landlord loving that's happened. The response was basically completely non-committal and not wanting to kind of address it at all, but I if I could have sent them for the cross press court.

For asking that question, because I mean this: is nuts I've never seen anything like this? It's totally bizarre, and it was a kind of competitive situation. They were all they all pro it in, and they were trying to compete with the other. Each was trying to Dr. Mike yeah, lets see if you get their hands on their stuff and I find it hard to believe that this crime scene is all done as a crime scene, because all that this is the kind of stuff that should be bagged and tagged and put it into evidence. This is a huge terrorist event, and it's hard to believe that passports and all this other stuff, like you, know, driver's license all that stuff is.

It would just be left in the apartment and not retained as evidence no completely, and the thing is even if there's not going to be a trial against these two individuals that are saying that there's not going to be a trial at all, and so I'm. Not a lawyer like, like little just put that out there I'm, not a lawyer, never went to law school, but my knowledge of watching crime shows and reading books makes me you know, have to ask like: are there now potential Fourth Amendment issues that could impede any sort of you know investigation going forward just because of what happened, because this information being you know, broadcast in this way, not to mention just the fact that the scene itself was disturbed, the way that it was because it, regardless of what this investigation is not over so regardless of whether it's a crime scene, it can't be good for the investigation to let you know. Seven different press outlets basically fight all over themselves over who can photograph what and show things and move things around. You know because, there 's's, as you said, nothing's been tagged and bagged. There's, there's not going to be any sort of excess.

You know accountability if things go missing which could potentially you no harm. What the investigation winds up showing out this is just insane yeah and as Jason used to work for the LAPD and knows a lot about police procedure, and he's pointing out the chain of custody has been broken so that if, for example, something's discovered in this apartment likes, for example, the name and address of some somebody else who may be a suspect, that's completely inadmissible in court, because of course, any of those journalists could have inserted into the scene could have done anything to it. Other evidence may have been removed. There's no way to know that's why they tape off crime scenes and don't let anybody touch anything until everything's been processed, but this apartment once again looks like nothing has been processed. There was no police tape.

All the stuff was still there. They also showed a few people there. It's also. There was also a lot of symbolism. You know there's like zooming in on a Koran that was zooming in on a prayer rug.

We knew we know that that that these the now dead suspects were Muslims. They were you know, religious, Muslims, apparently and that's sort of like capturing all this now. I think that the consensus that's quickly forming on Twitter is that, under those circumstances, journalists were right to go in and see what information they could gather but wrong to livestream and turn it into a live looting. Even I mean. Apparently, people were even on periscope.

You know this, and it's like I again I'm, trying to put myself what I would do in that situation and I. Don't cover this sort of stuff so, and I don't want to speak for anyone, else motives and I. Don't know what I would do in that situation, but I understand the compelling need to want to get the information out there, especially if you're being offered access whether it was legal to offer access or not, if you're a journalist, that's frankly not your responsibility. You know that that's on the landlord, that's on the cops or whatever. So if someone says come on in look around I'm, not necessarily going to false anyone for going inside, but the way in which was broadcast so indiscriminately, I think, is problematic and, and is potentially, you know harmful through this future of this investigation, for lots of reasons, because you know that the computers and the other things were taken, but just this I'm shocked that this is happening.

Specially I mean there's already been so much discussion, and it's already such a tenuous situation anyway. For so many people, because this was such a tragic event, I don't understand how this makes anything any better to have this sort of feeding frenzy go on and in for this, to have potential to be politicized and manipulated, even it in a way that it frankly just doesn't need to be right now, because this is a tragedy, we need to focus on the tragedy in finding out who's behind it and finding out what we can do to stop things like that. The future, not you know going in and trying to look at photographs of people's family members who are not involved. You know in what happened and of course, whenever there's a terrorist attack or a mass shooting of any kind people, you will go nuts and think. Well.

How can we stop this and there's all you know everybody's pre-existing agendas coming to the fore. We got to stop refugees, whether to do this, we got a gun control get over there. The first thing you got to do is be competent around the brown, the investigation and all that stuff competence is the first thing we need to demand and all the rest of it. We can argue about later, but first step don't mess everything up unnecessarily out of no I mean it's just complete. Anyway, let's move on to the regular tech news.

We got lots of fascinating tech news today, but that was just a bizarre event. Of course, it all unfolded mostly on Twitter, but we'll talk about something related coming up very soon, but first Facebook this week started testing live video status updates. This would have been great for the looting live, video status updates for general users in the past. This meerkat or periscope like feature, was reserved for celebrities and verified users. Only Christina Pennington is the tech editor for refinery29 and joins us to talk about it.

Welcome to show Christina, hey thanks for having me thanks for coming on now, let's say you're a journalist, and you want to go through the suspects house. How would you use Facebook live video to do that? Yeah, so Facebook makes it incredibly easy. All you have to do is go to update your status and then click live video. It's rolling out with a few users, first, just on the iOS app. So if you go and check right now, you may not have the feature yet, but if you do, it's just like a two-step process, and then you get on, and you can stream what's happening around you same as you would on periscope or meerkat or any other live-streaming platform, um yeah and then from there.

Your close friends will get notified that your you're on live right then, and people can like it, people can come a comment on it same as they would for a normal Facebook status and then once you're done, it'll get posted to your timeline, and you can choose to leave it there for posterity or delete it if it was something that end up being really embarrassing. Now is this still coupled with the Facebook mentions app, or is this just completely part of the Facebook app panel yeah, so the Facebook mentions app is still separate. This is actually just part of the main Facebook app, so they're trying to make this feature available to everyone and just really wrap it into that holistic. Facebook experience um Facebook's been doing a lot lately to try to make everything on um in the Facebook experience a bit more immediate. You know bringing a lot of news in kind of getting to me.

It feels a little more like Twitter e and a what, in a way like trying to make um things a lot more immediate, a lot more alive. You want to tune in to Facebook to make sure you're catching up on the latest news. You know when a disaster happens, there's a check-in feature that you can check and make sure your friends are safe and now there's this live-streaming live-streaming feature too, so you can broadcast what's happening around you as it's happening. I went in to see if I could use it and I couldn't. Can you be specific about who right now can and cannot use this feature yeah? So when Facebook rolls out new features a lot of times, it just starts with a very small minority of users.

So right now it's just um. So lets some celebrities and some journalists have access. I am NOT among those and then right now they're adding a small subset of iOS Facebook, app users um, it's unclear exactly how many that is, but I would say if you're hoping you're among them go in, make sure your Facebook app is up-to-date or update it and then see if you've got the new feature and then just keep the updated, maybe you'll be among next to get it very cool. I am, I am one of the people who have the feature and it, and I've had it for a couple of months. Furthermore, I haven't actually used it that much though, which is weird, so I guess my question is you know, will this be? Do you think this will be popular or how, as live-streaming kind of jumped the shark I mean we've got a bunch of options out YouTube? Will let you do it? Obviously you can do it with the twitch.

You can do it with periscope. You can do it meerkat. Do you think this is going to be something that will take off with Facebook users, yeah I'm really curious to see where it goes to lie? I have a feeling, it might kind of throwback to the way we used to use. Facebook I, don't know about you, but back when I was in college, a lot of my status updates were like Christina is studying Christina. Are you know having fun at the bar? Yes yeah, you know, so things like that where it's just kind of casual like hey, like you know, I'm making this cool dinner.

For my friends, you know just kind of just maybe not like the long like newsy kind of live streams that we are familiar with. Journalists kind of doing on periscope, but just kind of short, quick, looks into what's happening in your life right then Christina Facebook also unveiled a new photo sharing feature. Can you tell us about that yeah? So Facebook also added a collage feature, and so you know right now you can either update you can either upload a single photo or like an album of photos, and now you can select multiple photos. Facebook will put it into a collage automatically. You can select, which photos you want, which photos you don't, and it'll show up all nicely packaged in a collage on your Facebook uh painting.

Well, if you wait long enough, eventually, Facebook will have all the features that's been in my experience. Eventually, they'll have every feature of every other social and messaging and photo application on the planet. So just we're almost there I think Christina Pennington is it refinery29. com, and you can find her on Twitter at red girl says Christina thanks for joining us today. Thank you.

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Let you look at stereoscopic photos among other things, and now Google lets you take such pictures using a new, app called cardboard camera Michael Ryder is the editor of Android Police and joins us now welcome to show Michael hi Mike. Thank you very much for having me this morning, thanks for coming on now, stereoscopic images involved. Two very similar pictures displayed one picture for each eye to create the illusion of 3d or a little of depth. How does cardboard camera achieve the capturing of a stereoscopic effect when smartphones have only one rear camera? Well, if you've ever used, Google's photosphere function, lieutenant standard camera, app or very similar stuff, like that? It's its very much like that. If you've got a recent camera, that has a panorama assist mode where you just sort of go here here, it's a very similar technique, except that it's using the video camera.

So you pointed in a direction and the app instructs you to basically turn around in a circle, and it will constantly record images of it and what it does is it processes those images and combines them and then reeds plays them in a way that cardboard can show you in this sort of I, don't want to say fake, but it's definitely a virtual reality illusion. So you, obviously your two eyes are looking at just slightly different images. At the same time, and as you look through the cardboard goggle set or anything similar, it will display this sort of 360-degree panoramas of whatever you took. It also records audio, while it's doing it, so it'll take about a 30-second loop of the audio that's going on in the background, and it will present that at the same time as this panoramic virtual 3d experience, you can turn it off if you want, but it's a nice ambient thing to add in very cool. So, where can users post these photos, and what's needed to view, though me and obviously cardboard, but where can these be posted, and where can they be viewed well right? Now the app is a little bare bones.

You open it up, and you've got about six examples, and then it interrupts you to take some of your own, and you can share them through androids standard. Stick share feature if you open that image in the Photos app and share it, but you know Twitter Facebook Google+, wherever you like right now, it doesn't have a sort of public gallery that you can go into, and you can't share directly to other users of this particular app. You kind of have to tell people go here. Take this photo in force with the app and then look at it. So right now, it's definitely designed you know just for personal use.

So if you happen to be going on vacation or as it might be, invading a suspects house and violating your privacy in pursuit whirl, you could record it for your own posterity, a little tricky to share it right photos to you. Let's weave that that reference, it every single story on today's show I'm I'm all for it now I'm the feeling Michael that one of the things that Google discovered was that when they try to get people to do photos, fears that people weren't doing it right the right way to do a photo sphere. Are you hold the camera in one place like this, and then you, you move the camera like that? What people actually do is they take a picture here, and then they move the camera over here and take another picture and that's ideal for this kind of thing, because you're moving the putting the camera in it's slightly different angle as you take it. So I have the feeling that that that may have inspired them just guessing to actually take advantage of the fact that people are moving the camera in the wrong way for photo spheres which turns out to be the right way for Google cardboard. Camera effects any other thoughts on this Michael or any other references to violent crime in America and how the journalists violate crime scenes one and done I'll have one for the day.

That's mine now for photo spheres. When you turn it, it's very much like a panorama assist you point it, and you take a picture and then there's a sort of target that appears in the screening to take another picture. But for these cardboard camera it's a continuous video. You don't have to press anything after the initial record starts, and it guides you along. It tells you, if you're going too fast or too slow, it's very good, friendly.

It's impressive from a company that isn't always known as having the best interface the first time around. So it's very cool right now, I think if they integrate some gallery features and some better sharing features, it'll get even better. So if you have to be going on vacation or something similar that I won't, mention may be loaded into your android phone and check it out. It works for android 4.4 and later right. Now I'm actually going on vacation in about a week, and I'm going to South America, so maybe I'll grab this I'll steal Jason cell phone, and I will, I'll take that with me.

A Michael Ryder is at android police calm, and you can find him on Twitter at Michael, Ryder Michael thanks for joining us today. Thank you. Mike never buy in product update news, the game, video streaming site, twitch just upgraded its Android app to play over android TV. The app supports HD resolution is 60 frames per second video, Christina warren. This makes a lot of sense.

I think you know, makes total sense, and I'm actually kind of surprised. It took this long I mean I. I know the whole like Amazon own switch thing, so they've been kind of weird about being on other platforms that don't actively promote Amazon, but like come on guys you want to twitch to pee on android TV, so I mean this is pretty great yeah absolutely well. We got some big numbers for you, too big numbers. Actually, the first one is 21 million.

That's the number of wearable computing devices that shipped last quarter. The number has roughly tripled in the past year, according to IDC all right, our other big number is 53. That's the percentage of us computer sales to schools that now go to Google Chromebook devices according to a report all by CNBC. Isn't it amazing that's up from one percent in just three years ago, the one percent, so this is where I have to totally have like a Mayo ck cuppa, because I was not bullish at all on Chromebook and I really didn't feel like it would go that far in education. I was right that it didn't really go that far in businesses.

I don't see businesses adopting it at all, but shoot schools are buying them like crazy, and I think it's probably because so many Google's done a perfect job selling schools on I'm being part of a Google apps and and and Google Docs and building that'll ecosystem into the into their. You know County systems and one odd and so um. This is insane 53. That it is not it's something! The disaster for Apple I'm, sure it's crisis with an apple, an Apple but also Microsoft I, mean I. Think even Microsoft, more than Apple mean Apple historically, is done very well on education, but because their price point is higher, there's awesome and plenty of schools and plenty of parts of the country that have never had Apple devices just because, even though Apple gives discounts they're still going to be more expensive than a lot of the PC contract.

So I really, I would think that book, Microsoft and then companies like historically companies like Dell, are the ones I would think would be hurting even more so because apple at least has their direct channel. You know sales that they can still do really well in, and you're going to see a lot more Apple devices, I think in colleges and universities higher education things, whereas you know if your, if your dell, even if, unless you're selling a Chromebook, I guess like which you're not gonna, make as much money on I mean this is awful news, I think for both Apple and Microsoft, but I would probably put more of it on the traditional windows players yeah and, of course it has the dual benefit of being very low learning curve. In terms of administration, and also they're super cheap, and that is a very efficient nomination for schools, no totally isn't honestly, it's perfect for Google once they do kind of get older I mean this was one of the ways that I think a lot of us kinds of became indoctrinated into the Apple ecosystem is even if we had PCs at home, we used backs at school, and once we had enough money, or we went off to college, and we could like to get a real computer, make a real investment. We wanted to have a know, a mac and I think that for my generation anyway, that's one of the reasons why we kind of started to see that shift, especially once they did the Intel transition. I could see the same thing happening for the generation today, where you get started on a Chromebook, you could start going on the Google device.

There's not going to be as much of a reason for you. Aid even consider windows or B feel as compelled to get a MacBook, and you might be more compelled if you're using google services at school and other places to have your personal accounts and use an android phone. So I mean it's, it's smart, all the way around so kudos to google for this definitely alright. Well, our word of the day today is subtweet. Twitter has apparently filed a trademark for the tourney kidding me subtweet, Christina warren, any predictions.

What the heck is a subtweet. Well, there's so many definitions of a sub sweet and there's so many like you know, obviously a sub sweetest when you're talking behind someone's back without mention them in a comment. I mean it's passive, aggressive, tweeting, there's a like wave doing it there's a hole in a submarine. What there's a whole new Anne to the sub sweet I can't believe they filed a trademark for this unbelievable, unbelievable all right. Well, we got some news.

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That's Gas, I'll come today, and we thank yourself for their support of tech news today, a news you can lose heavy rains and flooding of devastated communities in and around the south, Indian city of Chennai Prime Minister, Narendra Modi surveyed the disaster area from airplane recently, but the Indian press information bureau promoted the Prime Minister's trip with a horrible photoshop job posted on Twitter that claimed to show mode looking at his airplane window at the disaster below. In fact, he was looking at the disaster below, but the way that you know, cameras, work and so on it was kind of washed out, so they took a nice clear photo, and they pasted it into the window of the airplane. Indian Twitter users mocked the photo which was quickly deleted, but not before others could post copies of it, as well as creative modifications of the photo even China's state-run news agency, Xingu made their own mock-up and, of course my favorite is. That is the one where Mode is watch looking at his laundry. Well, that the dinosaur one is a good one as well, but I love the laundry one he comes home washes his clothes.

Okay, like honestly, like State, Department, who's, doing your social media. What the hell like come on yeah this is it like I mean a person doing it hopefully is like someone young yeah. We were just okay. Well, no, they should know about it. That's the thing they should know better, because they should know that this is the sort of thing that everyone is going to harp on like I get it.

It's not a great photo for that. Photoshop job come on yeah, um I, but I appreciate that uh. Even though this terrible stuff is happening, the Indian community was able to kind of poke fun at it and in kind of bad love, edit. What's otherwise a know, devastation and not greatness, that's right and doctoring photos. Of course the best thing is mockery, as, of course, Iran learned when they added missiles to their missile test, launch, etc.

There's a big history of that all right. Well, we've got another news: you can lose item. Kyocera has launched a smartphone for Japanese gramophones. It's called the Kyocera dig no raw fray, and it's designed to be washed in the sink with soap and water. It comes to kill, Sarah's commercial, which is in Japanese by the way good I snow.

Well, what I see? Okay, happy, Japanese family having dinner hand, the phone to junior, never a good idea, and he puts it right into his crate. So now the phone has: what does that ketchup? Yeah? The phone is ketchup all over it. Oh, my god in other news, they're putting ketchup on cr?pes in Japan, okay, so now there's so that's so weird, and now they're washing the phone as if it was like just like doing the dishes, and it's fine, yes, and then they hand it back to the kid for some reason, he's already demonstrated it. Oh, no! It's good! Thank you all the ways. The bottom of the one who has to wash it yeah exactly I mean seriously like I kind of get like the pitch.

Like fifties, throwback, 52 trying to go for but like come on. That's right. She should have grabbed him by the ear and made him wash it. I was going to say it's like look, III, don't care! If you are the firstborn son or whatever like to wash your own, damn phone, that's right or just you're going to dirty it up! Then you clean it just send the kid to it to take a bath and to have him take the phone with him. So on anyway the dig no Ralph ray I, don't get that name either cost four hundred and sixty-seven dollars and is available in Japan.

Only alright, well, our TNT fan of the day is Terrell cotton in San Francisco California, who posted this picture on Google plus he's watching tech news today in an on a nexus 9 in the library. That's so cool. Very, very cool notes from yesterday's show us how you watch or listen to teenage record a video or take a picture of yourself, or you set up and post it on Instagram, Google+, Twitter or Facebook, and please use the hashtag how I watch TNT. So we can find it Christina warren. What are you up to these days? What are you working on lots and lots of year-end content because it is this the season to be overworked, um, so lots of your own content of fire.

You know gift guides um a couple of the things. I can't talk about that it'll be out next week, so lots of stuff on that front very interesting and you guys are still doing live streams using meerkat and periscope. Is that correct? We sure do so. We do tech Tuesday on Tuesdays on periscope and meerkat, and we talk about everything happening in tech. Furthermore, we also have a podcast that we do on Thursday is called mash talk and where we talked about the week's events and more of a traditional podcast form and lance playoff was actually on Michael and Kelly.

I saw off everything which was amazing, yeah all the holiday gadgets, Tobias so and whenever I see that you know of course, um when lance and I work together in Windows magazine, I did Aegis and Kathie Lee, and I was showing off a bunch of different things. I played a video game with Aegis and took a picture of Kathie Lee, which I still have around somewhere digital picture with it back then, when digital cameras were exotic technology all right well, they were, they were exotic. They were amazing. You had to plug them in you know they took regular batteries back then they took like regular double a's yeah. Absolutely all right, Christina film underscore girl on Twitter.

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