Pixel 3 in the East, Razer Phone 2 in the West | #PNWeekly 327 By Pocketnow

Trying to record a show over here, hydrogen infused water. This is like h8 Oh tastes like water. Can the razor phone to proved to be an even sharper phone than before? And then, after that, we get into a heated discussion regarding the Google Pixel 3, which of course we have reviews coming in the coming days, hello, everybody and welcome to this episode of the weekly. It is episode number 327 on this day. It is what day is it guys? Furthermore, it is technically October 12 right now, because we were recording this podcast very late at night here in Los Angeles. These guys are finally in my neck of the woods, so I'm really excited for that.

So from Racer, hats, to pixel phones to razor phones and tablets and peripherals we're talking about all the things you wish you had when you were a kid. Let's get started and let's have a chat. Welcome to the Pocket weekly I just went to an official intro because he didn't do what well I would do it after the fact. Oh, it's a podcast bro. He put my podcasts I, don't mind, show apologize, that's what happens when you are tired across the country, and you've had you know what it for once, you guys are in my neck of the woods, because I'm always coming out to see you I'm at first yeah I've seen this is actually the first time we come to an event in LA yeah like seriously everyone.

Everyone well I mean this. Is this is razors backyard, so, of course it would be here, yeah they're in Irvine, which you know it's a little far then I got make everyone go to Irvine Orange County, so you know we brought that up already you're going to set up here. I wanted to set up my razor while we were here. I already said: yes, so you've been using it yeah, so Anna bong is basically going to be doing. Yeah, he's basically going to be doing an unboxing of that day.

Do it yeah Oh stock, go for it, so some thoughts on the same thoughts on the event. Because. Have you guys ever been to a gaming first time I ever am in a gaming? Ok, so I have yeah, you definitely have yeah. I did razor was raised her at PAX. When you were there.

Oh, yeah I'd. They were so razor, as is nice sheet on every single razors' device, telling you that you're welcome to the cult of razor course. You are for the price you paid, you should be. There is an entrance fee and that's what it is, of course, isn't this the cheapest like computing device that they have, though pretty much yeah Oh computing. Yes, yeah computer by net peripheral services, pretty much uh like a sharp dude I really want those like razor-mouth mice and keyboards man.

The reason makes okay look I've been doing gaming gear for a while. The two that I gravitate to our razor and auto said yeah Paris stuff is great, and Sam is all razor. I cannot convince him to go anywhere else, as he has a keyboard. Mechanical keyboard I think that's the Huntsman. He has the mother Mouse he's got he's got nothing.

Firefly he's got because use of the wildest pad as well. They have a solution. Where is truly wireless, interesting um? Any charge it recharges on the map for you, so you don't have to plug it in at all. What's the what's the keyboard named remember, this is a huntsman. No, the huntsman is a nothing okay, that's one thing razor do they have way too many like accessories and I keep I started, which for me is admirable.

Yeah, I mean they started, making a mouse, and then they became the monster that they are. Oh, there's Larry. Let me hold it my green yeah encased in glass. It's carpet guys its carpet. It's fine Q in the video of that guy.

That makes fun of unboxing. There is a video I'll show it to you, okay, the guy so class yeah. Look! It is an it's a pretty opulent like unboxing it. This is very, it's very razor like there's, actually not much green on the box. No, no reason it's not because most of the new boxes now are black, especially even on the laptops yeah.

So just show you guys again: it's black! The lettering is black, even though races, color of preference is green like this right. Oh, that so there's no there's nothing that says it's very nondescript image tag sponsored I knew I would eventually wish we do wish, but at the same time, I have to say when the swag bag came and the phone was in a couple of other accessories for us to review. I have to admit when I took the hat out. I was like this is actually a really nice. Looking hat I could do with a smaller logo.

Because this. This does look like I got branded, but yeah, so that they've got some Racer stickers inside there's sentiment there sim ejector is actually really cool, stupid things quick charge for Plus how many people that is the only that is the only charger unless you get it from Qualcomm, which are the ones we got in Hawaii yeah. There is no quick charge for plus and I. Don't think, there's another phone, that's compatible! You know what it is. I feel like quick, okay, quick charge for I.

Remember. We were asking them this at that tech summit. Last year, asking Qualcomm that is, isn't quick charge for basically just a co-opting of PD. It's basically the same thing so because it's its easy to use be seen honorable yeah. It is, but this four plus is different from four just apparently it is the speed of four without the overheating.

Furthermore, it's what they told me. I got I hope so yeah. It does a better job at handling and handling just to continue. We have here the US by BSB type, C 2, headphone jack, with a built-in DAC, so technically 24-bit by the way, even though they provided the hammerheads right. Those are you know the hat, but the hammerheads they provide it to so.

Huh, come in the blocks, just because you got it in there. Oh, no. What I'm saying is like what I'm saying is like, even though our heads are the headphones. Well, exactly the Hammerhead headphones are USB enabled so you kind of you're skirting the deck, that's included in the adapter, so I, don't know if they have. My heads have DAX.

Is that so that's the thing about it. Just to give you a quick educational standpoint on audio if your USB type-c headphones do not have a built-in DAC in there. The audio sucks just put it. That way, which is why stuff like this, especially that they have one built in and supposedly this is tuned by thanks yep yeah, he's also owned by Racer I found that to be fascinating yeah, but the own thanks like really it's like wow. So my introduction to Racer was literally last year with the first Racer phone, like yeah I, had seen the razor blade but I, you know.

For me, it was like I was not a gamer back, then I guess I. Guess it's the best way to the blade when it came out, and it was that compact form factor to me. It looked like it should have been called the MacBook killer on. I was about to say it's just one thing that I admire about Racer. Are they make really good-looking products like that mercury finish on the laptop? No, they said the mercury finish is high made reactions.

This one here was oozing like I, would have it I have to. Have it liked I will actually I am willing its I'm willing to pay for it. What a beautiful computer the base level laptop I was I actually had the listing on my phone as they were announcing it. I was so close to getting because I've been in the market for a new laptop for the longest time, I'm using a very old laptop, not very old. It's like two years, but still when that is very old.

Well, what it's almost two years, I think. But you know once the 8th gen Intel's came out, I was like I'm outdated, like crazy, yeah, yeah, so I'm. Sorry, by the way we are now onto braided cables, USB type-c litter boxes would be really boring. Dude kernel style. Well, you know what this is like.

This is super, super comedic effect. Scott is ejecting timing exactly and as you can see, if you can see here clearly it's got green colors in the USB type-c cables. So, oh my god, that's true! Oh my god. You know what these are so that unboxing video like the Verity is like. Oh, we've got a little paper.20 things yes, and then he keeps going. We've got another paperclip again, we've got.

Oh, we've got this amazing, so I move with 2x4 three-pound style paper covering I'm, trying to find a seam removal tool once I find it. That would be next Oh. What is it? Is it the snakes? So it no? No! No! No it's its! It's a sim removal tool that is lettered with razor there. I, don't know if you can bring that closer. So there you can see I'll do a BS rolled shot that is kind of nice.

Actually yeah. It looks like a paddle dude. Look at the stickers man, Oh, Oh was that my phone, that was your pixel like try and I trashed. My razor phone really nice stickers here I mean this is pretty awesome and, of course, chroma stickers because well we'll get to it. So it lights up.

Okay, so yeah so and among he's, going to set his up. I kind of wanted to set mine up this snake logo is multicolored 16.1 million dollars. I was a cult. What do you call this? A holographic? It's a little hologram. Those are only me, the actual oh yeah, this sticker I want to say but chroma like weren't there, people in the gaming / computing industry who are kind of sick of RGB.

Everything at this point I hear it from a lot of people, but now, okay, gay, that as a gamer, they all lying. If you're going to build a gaming PC, this DNS, your motherboard, hmm you're, cooling, your RAM ya, know my father, my oh, my Falcon Northwest Nikki is red AF, oh wow north. Why haven't heard that in a while? Oh dude, that thing screams? Oh sorry, by the way, welcome yes, already lit, will it there? You go. Everybody starts installing, but once I saw that there were fans with RGB built in I was like. Are we really getting this far? So my like my graphics card on that ticky? Is its huge I forget the spec on it, and it's just God just the way it glows and everything I'm like alright I can deal with this like I know I like it, it's cool I'll, admit it's cool, but it's just kind of funny that they're injecting into so many.

Oh, let's, let's think about this. What other gadget has the amount of coloring and just no style so-and-so is super corny, so I find it to be fascinating. The gaming products have adopted this mentality that they have to be colorful yeah, and you know just opulent I like it and I like it even more when they don't look like Tyrannosaurus Rex in the case of certain brands like what's the one that Dell does so those are pretty but but but here's the thing then I get it because you just need the thermals. The computer needs to be large because you need the thermals. If not the performance, it's just not going to be the same.

So, whereas razor has proven innovation when it comes to thermals, particularly and compact form, factors are really near specialty at this point yeah, but also I, think you have to look at the fact that if you're going to build out right, you build out a PC. If you guys are builders out there, you know quite well is that you, okay, sixes second side certain size. You've got a see-through window at night. If your lights are off or even if it's not well lit, you can't see anything. If you spend time building something right, you want to show it all exact, it's one of the biggest things you want to make it and like.

For me, this is going to sound stupid, but one of the reasons I bought my first ever MacBook Pro was because the keyboard was backlit. People don't remember like today. It's like common ground for all keyboards to be backlit, but people don't remember. That was like one of the coolest things that Mac started doing. First, I guess: I just live a rather solitary work life when I'm the only one in my office and the only one who's going to enjoy.

It is me and I agree that that's cool there's, nobody who lives in my apartment that works with me. Okay, they only do other things. We are drinking here only and so recently, when Danny and I have been crashing here. Oh yeah, that's right! That's right! Yeah, yeah, I've seen your desktop. It looks dope like it has great bouquet.

In the background, when I was making my videos at your place, it's just you know. I, probably the only light up thing that I feel like I would really enjoy. Are the keyboards where they light up as you press the keys, so you can actually see yourself, I love that that's great you know, and then the RGB chroma on certain keyboards, that's great, and I guess what I'm trying to get out here is I, find it a little ridiculous that even the smallest things are getting injected with chroma I'm, not saying it's, not cool I. Just think it's funny. So have you done so? One thing I'll, say: I know we're kind of spending some time here on this is that it's its a key feature of this phone.

No, it is, is, and I want to see this here. So one thing about chroma lighting as well as RGB lighting across gaming, is, is how it's synced so different companies Steelers has chroma on I'm, not gonna, so the RGB lighting on keyboards, where they work they've, worked with different gaming developers. So your health bar is the very your f keys right, and then you're also when you start playing a game, and you get damaged, or your key starts turning red, and it just graduates all the cream and then not your keys. Now Racer does open all your RGB effects, plus Philips you. So if you go free loops, you light on your tables in your apartment.

If your character is getting shot, everything turns red. If you want to set it up, that way, see the usefulness behind that I love that that's great. So if it's, if it's being useful, then that's great so think about it. Just with this, even if you've never used all that, you never had anything just hide, maybe your keyboard. We have a razor fold, and it's its sitting there charging with the chroma doc yeah and then the chroma dog, that's going red red red, blinking red light.

You came in and maybe you're not paying attention, because some you do. Something else is omission at you. You got oh okay. I need to do this, that's the whole light, but it's the whole I immersive idea of saying you've got more senses than just your fingers on a keyboard and by the way this is straight. Michael, Fisher territory he's like.

Oh, this is an LED indicator and that's the other thing yeah yeah, which is the point. I was the overarching point that I was making about the Chrome on the phone is that they made it useful, so I'm I'm, all in its great. It's a notification. I'm not gonna lie like I'm sure that that met that that set, might look cool, I, I, don't think I have ever liked black glass Oh as much as I like this. Okay, it's a slab of Onyx man.

It looks so I didn't look so okay. As long as your fingerprint, you know show you know: okay Barrett! No, but it does a perfect job like the oleo phobic coating is perfect. So here's a bear in mind. You know I got the razor phone one really late for due to certain issues. I did not like razor phone one at all, like at all.

I did not like that. Matte aluminum I, don't like how it aged I. Just don't like how the phone looked at all it looked like this clunky thing, I didn't consider it to be cool I. Obviously, I come from the time of next bit. So I'm like this is just a blown up next bit Robin made in different materials and then the back is now aluminum, and it looks awful because it scratches really well easily, and so I remember when they, when they showed me this in the briefing I was like.

Alright, this is a mo, and then they flipped it over, and it was just pitch black with the chroma, and I was like. Oh okay, I want that yeah, and they were like yeah, but there's going to be another version. That's going to have more source of one than another. You give me more storage on that one yeah. First time, I ever want a glossy black back on a phone, and you know what, like you know, just the final point on the chroma I know: we've spent a lot of time on it, but this camera hub, if it's ever so slightly raised off the table.

One is like this, and it pulsates it's like having an LED underneath I, know, and I'm, so glad that's kind of heavy notice, but it's well-balanced. Yes, yeah like the iPhone right. So if you get, if you get an under glow off the phone, I mean that's kind of cool too, but the problem is the for. The screen needs to be on for the chroma to work unless you have it on high power, unless you have it on, so there are settings for the chroma. You can set it to whatever color you want, and then it's also a notification light, or you can just have it on spectrum, which just cycles through all the different colors look, can't you add it to for a notification with different apps right yeah.

So let's talk a little more about these other respects song here, because I think that we all kind of agreed that this phone has a lot to offer. Despite the fact that you know, we have a lot of really high-powered phones out right now, and this one is really trying to push the envelope in terms of all the power and all the specs four thousand William power battery like really loud and clear, front-facing speakers. Yes, can you demo a little um, you know so for the price we're looking at what $7.99 yeah, okay for $7.99 you're, getting maybe up to two to five hundred dollars less for this phone. That has all the same, if not better specifications than some flagships out there. So here's the thing this phone is sadly not for everyone.

At least these are my first impressions. Why? Not because my god, this thing is not small. It is unapologetically large and designed for a specific user in mind. True sorry, I've got an update. Oh yeah, immediately it'll, it's got a software update immediately.

This phone is not for everyone there, but there's. This is not what they're trying to do like. They were clear. This is flagship gaming. So it's a phone that appeals to the flagship masses because it's got new cameras, and it's got things that people look for Anna Fleur phone, but it's also a gaming phone I get all these things.

The problem is it's not easy to handle? It's not like I'm like these are the moments where I'm like alright fine, now I understand that whole purpose of iPhones having this like curve in the know and the borders, you know galaxy s 9 and that's night. Let's do the same. This phone does not is not going to be easy to carry in a pocket. It's just not a practical phone to handle. That being said, I've heard no better speakers on a phone.

That being said, a hundred and twenty Hertz true 120 Hertz on a display. It's gotten over prime, so you're not dealing with any BS like. So when you have great speakers that are also water-resistant when you have a good battery when you have a good camera, which in theory is what they're offering, and I've already made some test and test came out perfect um, and you price it for three hundred dollars less than more than this. Ah so, by the way, I'm like okay, ? still worth $1,000 I know. Okay, anyone knows I, don't care what anybody sees the closest phone worth.

A thousand dollars is the Galaxy Note I agreed like. So that's the thing I mean if you give me a galaxy, no 9 I'm willing to put up with the size for the benefits that you get with the phone yeah. It offers a lot more, but then, if you got a phone that'll give you that pretty much all that with better speakers with a better display in when it comes to refresh rate and gaming and all this for $300, less $200, that's pretty much uh! It's its really hard to compete with this. Furthermore, it really is, and I'm just going to throw it in there, and then you can get all that with less size and more sleekness with the 1 plus 60. Whatever it comes ever, it might be at high for even $200.

So it's a really hard problem. No, no I, disagree and I'll. Tell you! Why tell me what so here's the thing that we all do as tech reviewers right? We forget what the market really is. It's called a market for reason, and this reason why I like the razor phone one last year, and it had issues is because when men went on stage, he realized that there's a certain market for this phone, which is reason why a sews yeah every time and whether it will game and even Samsung, had to get fortnight yeah to say we have gaming because me knew that thing about it when he is like. If you, if you remember the press conference for last year, anyone watched it, he talks about a game that had a hundred million users on a mobile game.

This is China now vainglory, right, yeah thing, Louis, yeah now think about it. If you can only just NAB 1 million I'm, not talking about like Samsung numbers for razor, you have 1 million. If you eat into that market, you become a mainstay yeah. It's such a great business model and saying it's a great idea and, and the reason I like razor- is this: if you, if you've known razor as much as I've done, is one of the things the razor does a VR CES yeah- and you know this quite well come up, we say is crazy. Stuff I want Prime, I want project Linda and every year every other year, one of those projects usually comes to life right.

In a sense, this is kind of like one of their crazy project. If you think about it yeah they are the first ones for sure yeah they're, not a phone company, but it also said we're not going to skimp out. They made mistakes, they had issues, but the second year began. They said we're still not having to skimp out and here's the price. You know, and one of the things I liked that he said in the press conference was you want a notch? You don't do that because you know what pixel three garbage and that notch well get there later we're going to get there, but he also talked about other things is like you know.

We got big businesses in size. He said it yeah I like when you take what you have, and you say you know what this it is, what it is, but because also the speakers are there for visas. So it's not an engineering problem. It's not that they don't have the engineering capability so what off they just they're, not out for that yeah exactly you know, and I do like that, then I think, and you're. Right though it is for a certain market right, it's not it's not the best phone to handle, it's not the most economic, but it's for a certain market that goes look I'm, going to watch my content, I'm gonna, game and I want the speakers to be nice and crisp all those speakers, those workers and get it done.

And that's look. If that's you, that's you get what you want, but I also think that this phone is its the perfect phone for the moment, because I think you can give some insight on this because I mean I were talking about earlier that the razor phone one came out. It was a proof of concept. Let's, let's put in those terms at least for now, and it was a way for them to say, like you know, we can make this happen. We can make a gaming phone happen.

It may or may not fit all users, but you know people who really want to get into gaming. This could be the phone for you and then, since that phone came out, gaming on mobile has blown up there's. So many great games like Nintendo, started making mobile games, and it's obvious that there is a market here that people want to start getting into developers and consumers are like I'm one of those consumers, I love I. One of the few reasons I actually go for the bigger phones now is because I consume that much media and because I game that much so say, here's the thing right, and I've been waiting for this for a long time. It's not the mobile games that I really care about I'm a'm, a know: I was a PC gamer first yeah I have consoles, and then this week, even though this is not directly related, but Microsoft announced X cloud.

Now. Imagine for me, as someone who enjoys PC games, X cloud is basically the ability stream your Xbox level games on any device. Now we all know how good this, because they pay for itself. So you already on raise a phone. You're streaming now your halo, all that stuff on here.

It doesn't feel like you've, cheating the experience in some of the devices you've got better audio you've got 120 her display. That is that's why it is like. For me, I went okay as a gamer. This is cool because now not just what they do. Somebody else has validated it, even though they didn't think about validating it entirely and, and also this goes to the point and in our in my own weekly podcast.

We talked about this myself Sam. By the way, it's also called the weekly I know. Yeah. We talked about how there is a need for niche devices. Absolutely because I was a very good point, because the idea of all-around premium does not make sense.

This is a gaming phone right now, so some would say the LG V Series is the greedier phone greater for fair phone, and everybody would say the note.9 is the workers. You know professional phone key to you know: workers phone exactly yeah, so yeah the there are many devices out there that follow. These I see your face. That I mean. Let me give you the reason why that's true, Michael Fisher brings a key to with him everywhere, just because when he decides he wants to type something he takes it out to do it so hey it's a worker, I still type faster on absolutely any virtual keyboard.

Comfort dude! It's not about fast talking about so a comfort. What is uncomfortable about tapping glass, you do it for absolutely everything else. It's way more comfortable on a physical cue. What are you talking about? Dude I started using tile feedback? Is somebody using physical keyboards when you were still so uh somebody's just trying to age himself here, yeah? No, let's, let's face it. I grew up with physical keyboard.

Yeah, like I'm generally sure gotten how comfortable? No I'm, not I was saying that they were uncomfortable, I'm, saying god I feel it the implementation. So you can't expect to bring the way software the way hardware keyboards wore ten years ago and just add a couple of gestures to it and expect like there can be better things done. It's been 10 years, it's been 10 years and I find Swift Key to be far more practical, I'm drinking hydrogen water. He doesn't want any part of this car. No, but I, and I and I do get that.

But back to the point of niche devices, I completely agree with that end. You know what to add one more to that list. The pixel is the Android users phone, it's the purest, the Android purest phone. No, that would be the one plus six yeah I would agree it's on there too. It's the artistry Android phone, no BS like stock Android, pure as it is I, think I.

Think so much the launcher is a launcher. It's not start yeah I would I going to have a lot of comparisons, but I think it's very Fred to say that it should be noted. Our comparison granted I have I, didn't go to the pixel events as Google doesn't like me, so maybe that's why you keep calling them out I Google, actually stuff is pretty great by the way. No, but it would be nice to see the comparison between this and the 60, because the comparison reading this in the galaxy is actually to me personally is not a fair comparison to this device. I mean a camera is solid.

They had many fits all things, but there's one thing that I've always said Samsung has done wrong. Is that they always add things to Android that, oh, you know Sam, but I, think to the 660, and what OnePlus is done with that device is, is showcase the simplicity of what Android is. They provide we're fine and still have a lot of things, especially the price difference, so um I mean I would call it out now that probably the camera on this is better succeed before we even get the device, but I think it's a matter of usability function, because this is the thing we do as reviewers all the time. We take one feature, and we try to make that future king over everything else. So I would love to see a lot of we're gonna.

Do this comparison, I, probably won't, but it's just one of the things I would like to see. Other people I, don't watch it see how they view this against the 60, because it's a very interesting argument, yeah that can be made right there. Okay, well we're going to get into this one right here they had the pixel in a second first, let's get a few words in about our sponsor one of two. This episode so look forward to that. But let's talk about one of our sponsors all right, so, while they're loitering in the background there, this episode of the pocket not weekly, is brought to you by capital by Lu tron.

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You did a great video man. Oh, thank you, I, just the way that I thought about it was like. There are a lot of hands-on videos out there. There's nothing wrong with them. I suggest they all go through the spec sheets and stuff like that.

Why would I do the exact same thing? Just you know on a different Channel I thought. You know what there are a few things about this phone I really like it makes me like the phone as a whole. You know the ester flaws, and maybe I was a little flowery in the way that I said what was wrong with the phone and that I didn't want it to straight up. Say effs this at that, but that's not who I am and if you've never seen me on my channel before I'm sorry I'm getting this off my chest right now. If you've never seen my chin, I'll say it.

You have to know that I'm, not I'm, not a cynic, and I'm, also not a pessimist when it comes to tech, I'm, the love everything guy, so I accept when he's off camera, though that's right, you know he breaks things all the time I'm joking but like when it comes to the pixel 3xl I'm. Just like you know, I get it I get why people hate certain things about this I agree in a lot of ways, but you know just to give a shoutout to marques Brown lee, who did a video today about it. He's yeah as the video is perfect. In his case he said he's kind of numb to the notch like it doesn't mean that it's not there and doesn't have to say it. I'm gonna, have to say it yeah right.

So pixel one was the most horrible phone that I like holding. There was a thing about the aluminum finish and own, and, and it was just it felt really well in the hand and felt utilitarian and my case off yeah. Do it and I, just I hated those huge Chin's on the phone unnecessary. They served no purpose the speaker on that phone. It was horrible, so here comes pixel to pixel.

To Excel is what I did yeah and I had one without a problem without problems on the display pixel to excel I like for a couple of reasons, the first one. It was the lightest phone that had that size, and so the weight distribution was just so well done. It was so well executed that I couldn't care less about the bezels at a time when bezels were starting to disappear on phones, I couldn't care less because it felt great all right, pixel three Excel I've said it in all my I've said it all. My reviews, I, don't mind notches I prefer not just over bezels I'm going to say one quick thing: I'm like I, don't I don't like notches, but I, don't mind them. Okay, there's a different thing.

Alright, here's the thing! Here's the thing finish, because I will just tell all of you're completely wrong and foolish well. I knew you're. Going to say that the problem is when you launch a phone I did scratch the damn thing, damn it ouch, oh well, this is very raw podcast right, you're unboxing, his big Jan. Where is if it's at the top and I? Think it's like well figure that out I'm straight I'm, sorry. So this screen is literally a design aberration and here's.

Why? So? In the case of the iPhone, for example, no yes you've got that notch, but let's just let's face it. If you compare it like this, not just like half the size of that one and then but then at least you've got the curves all around the screen being symmetrical. There is literally like no chin, there's nothing. It's just that notch at the top, so I'm cool with that I'm cool with the one plus six, for example, where the notch is smaller, and then it's got a minimal chin at the bottom. This thing has got a chin, the size of Texas, which I am okay with it, because it's got a speaker.

I was just about to say like I, it's totally fine for you not to like to wear those bezels are, but when I state that there is a speaker there and in the notch you have two cameras, a sensor and a speaker that somehow I'm a terrible person because I'm stating facts, that's a fact: I'm, not making an apology for it. I'm saying it's there: okay! So here, you're dizzy and here I go here: I go okay, so you've got a chin. You've got a chin, the size of Texas I'm, just waiting for you to never said. I never said it was IOUs got a notch, the size of Long, Island, yeah, and then you've got two borders of bezels at the top with curves and then sharper curves at the bottom, and then you've got one speaker, that's larger than the other, with a pair of cameras that it's like, if they're looking at me with a smile, and I'm like alright, there is too much on the screen. Yeah, I've never disagreed with that.

Let him talk he's about to go off, I know I, just want to say: I've, never disagreed with any point. You're making, and always I was just stating facts about what is that you, in the bitter new, in the visual effects? No okay, look notches, are poor design right here, very simple, yeah support design. I! Don't take that from you charge me $1,000, 800 bucks to give me a poor design. First, if you're charging me $500, $600 I get it. That is a market equivalent of saying common denominator.

When you charge me a thousand bucks, when you try to give me money, give me design give me that's. Why look as you call Porsche design exactly like yeah, so what happens out? What Apple did was poor design? What they have done is laziness and where ever is that Google sees this will see this laziness because it is the same phone design from last year. Literally they just cut out exactly nothing truly, and then you made your launch bigger for a reason right. They look. If you even made the excuse that there was facial recognition similar to what you have in the iPhone yeah with more senses.

I would take that as okay, fine I agree, but you didn't do it no wide-angle, though, that because it's the same sensor, size and I said it I'm. Sorry, no! No! No, but it's still another thing, and it's actually it's not another thing. It is just a camera hole that is the same size that you could have caught it down. That's the thing: it's not I get it, but you just basically put two lenses on something that everybody has shown. You can make it small, and then you've got, and then you've got the galaxy s 9 and note 9 whew that I've had wide-angle selfies like forever.

Ever that, like you yeah, you know, you have just give me one selfie camera. That's, why did pop said agree with ya. I do agree with that. Give me one selfie camera that's wide, and we're fine I mean it'll. Make me look thinner.

We didn't everybody want, but this is what it looks like and then remember. Last year they took out headphone jack because they told us it was to make thinner bezels on what do. I have look at that look at that stuff right there yeah, so I, don't let see which is no. This is the last design average just to go back to Racer right again, I'm not disagreeing with I'm, not disagreeing with anyone in the other so. But this is why I would say to you, I get why the people who got angry, because if you look at if you look at razor said this is why we are doing it and then Google can't even answer that question.

You can't tell me that you cannot design you. You bought up HCC's design apparatus, and then you give me this hog, partial, and I'm, calling that, because the hardware is standard across leisure time, where look you always go, and we'll get to hardware in a second, but everyone's going to have a 45 or ladies welcome. So we know that aspect about it. They've done wrong via software. That's why they're good at AI technology and stuff like that, but for crying out loud if you're going to mesmerize people, it's gotta look good.

This reason the galaxy is good. There's a reason: the elite, one plus six, is everybody's, going gaga, because little oh yeah right! That's what happen. You saw the links of the opal or the 18 yeah your drop! No, it's not even a teardrop, it's literally just a camera, oh-ho, exactly that's it and then, and then, and then this room of the as tab, which is basically under the screen. So when you give me this, you, don't you don't know Google marketing when you want to sell something fast, your fanboy base you've got to give people. The even Apple understands that as much as I.

Don't like that not that he did, but they gave I mean they give no, but they also gave me an aesthetic. There was the oh. We have all these sensors for face idea and all that when you use face idea, you're good, if I'm fine, you did that right, and it makes sense. But then they also said this is the aesthetic value of it. You look make some up that actually makes sense, not run a pest conference, and you cannot even state why you have stupidity with an unibrow.

That is what worse than dead bird on Sesame Street like that to me is, and some people will watch this and go. Why is he fretting about it? It's a not! It doesn't matter it's because it is lazy. Furthermore, it takes away your screw real estate and go watch my gaming video and see how much your screen shrinks when you actually play a game, because there are a lot of apps that haven't been updated to fit this, but you know they haven't they. They haven't been updated. Thirty fitted notch this large.

No, these haven't bolts again, it doesn't even matter if it does, because I was doing the math and going it was still even if you expanded it out, just like with the iPhone there's still part of your screen real estate. That just disappears no matter how you look at it yeah now it's just deeper longer and super like you know, you need to go get you know your brows done type of stuff, all right, I, I'm out now tell me what this looks like super thick bezels? No, what do you look at it? What are you looking at now? I mean look at that phone you're, looking at pixel to excel you're, looking up yeah. So if you do the hide the notch thing, I was on the developers. Ooh I, don't know man I mean, as I said, make the pixel three pixels. Two again so I was regretting.

I was design though yes, so I was regretting grabbing the large one instead of a small one. I think that fish will grab the small one right, Fisher grab the smaller one, and I was like shoot. Furthermore, I should have grabbed it because I am okay, so the point that I was trying to make is I. Don't think I've ever been annoyed by a notch in my life until now, because just it's not just the notch, it's the whole bottom chin so badly done like the combination of everything and then the user interface like that that make notification it just it looks terrible it just. It looks awful but looks very badly designed.

It serves no purpose. Well, let me tell you so here's the thing and I love that that David went to that whole Born thing with Dieter Rams, so with dieter Ram is Peter. Rams is one of the fathers of modern design admired by Jonathan I've, and you know a lot of the current incumbent, designers and Dieter Rams. He's got a couple of like principles for design literally design has to disappear. Thank you.

Design has to disappear. It has to almost feel undersigned. It has to look so logical, so practical, but you'd even question why it would be design any other way, and so this is obtrusive. This is it serves. Now that and then the other thing is design has to serve a purpose.

Can somebody give me a purpose for this? Damn thing, super dodge and I just want I just want to reiterate that. Obviously, the way that you use something is going to color the way that you feel about it overall yeah when I see that notch I did I see I do see, ugliness I'll say it. It is ugly it I like with it, I'm, okay, hiding the notch, but also, let me tell you something about this: hiding the notched okay, this when I was with Michael yesterday and I hit my notch and I put it up next to his smaller pixel three, it's the same exact phone, this one's just bigger. So if you're, okay with the small phone, then you're, okay with the big bezels just say, okay, just say anyway, I when I see the notch I'm like okay could be better, but you know what that wide-angle camera. That is right there at the top I'm using it all the time and that's the reason why I like this one yeah so me liking the wide-angle camera somehow made it so that me liking this one, because of that very specific thing, all of a sudden I'm a notch lover.

No, no question, not a question! I'm sorry! I have to really get out I've been dealing with this for two days. Furthermore, I have to say, for example, that somehow there's OLED panels perfect because that it's blacked out it's it slacked out to the point where you have. You cannot tell that it's a screen and not a bezel, sorry that it's a right that MMM but has anybody noticed, is LG still manufacturing the XL variant or is it now just the Google apparatus with HTC? Have you guys noticed that the curves on the screen are gone? There's LG yeah, but have you noticed that the curves on the screen are completely gone when compared to the flash I? Don't miss our ice? We compress to the pixel to excel. You remember those on the okay they're gone. Oh my god.

It's just sad! It's just a different design, just a glass on top yeah, it's just not yeah yeah, so I mean yeah, no I mean I. Just I personally do think that the phone is still priced lower than a lot of thousand-dollar variants out there by phone 10s how much again 800 it's eight yeah, it's so it's 800, which still makes it a little less than the other ones, and it could be lat. Furthermore, it could be lesser than that I agree, but still less, then you know, and if anybody out there is that mad at the notch, the note 9 exists, enjoy yeah, okay, no, listen, I'm, gonna, stop I'm gonna, stop throwing trash at this phone and say the things I like about it order it in white. So it's got. This, like panda effect, would like the black USB port and then the black screen, the black bezels is there supposed to be.

It feels it looks perfect. It feels like ceramic, like first polish, like the polish that they did on the aluminum, is perfect, and I love the finish at the back of the glass I ? yeah, listen, III looks really it not. Furthermore, it doesn't look cheap, it does not look cheap I bet. The screen is badly designed, but then everything else about the phone looks perfect. It looks like everything else looks cohesive.

It looks as it's where it's supposed to be. Those things are good. The speakers are great. They, okay, the speakers are great. The screen is perfect, says the guy who's tested every speaker.

Okay, look, look, I'm, just gonna I'm, sorry, I just have a caught you there. They had nice speakers, but pixel speakers have never been looked. Do you 12 speakers? You 12-plus? Yes, much better, yeah the eraser? Oh, no, no notice, not as loud still better Galaxy iPhone. No. This is not as bad.

Okay, your compared to the pixel to excel. No, no, no, no I'm, just saying the current phones, I really I phoned you 12, plus zz3, again uh v40, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, g7 g, 7z, louder I will necessary. Okay, it's louder. We say that it's not a bad speaker, just not the hyper well. So let me ask you this though $800 is that $800, basically paying for a plane, shoot camera? Now is no, but here's.

The thing like remember that we're still we owe it to Google to run this phone through the whole process of a review, and you know part of our commitment is we have to you know we right now we could only provide first impressions, which is what they are yeah I can answer this question no like we can't provide, like our final opinion, over the whole experience and if it's well yeah I know that's, which is why we can't go there yet yeah, which is why we're expounding on no no I, don't so I. Think I'll. Add this to this. Is that I think the problem we face, not not the device and with all the device, because we just talked about the razor phone right, and we just talked about. We've talked about the galaxy and stuff.

It's its a. We live in a very weird time, because if you were to do the one-to-one calculation right and I would say this, this does not compare to the razor for just on the pure one-to-one. What do you add because? You know we can argue, there's a chroma lighting these days. You know I'm just saying that features right, but that doesn't make a phone really for any specific individual, because it's its very different. True, that's why I say we live in the way, we're time, because we passed the time when before it was, if you threw the kitchen sink, and it was a thousand, nothing was before but say was a thousand with kitchen sink.

You go, yes is a thousand kitchen sink in white. Please say thank you, but we don't live in that time anymore, because um, there's preference and there's also certain things right. You've got an experience here that is close to stock Android. You know, and you've got the AI additives which not I would say most people dust don't have, and then you've got a camera. Like you said, a point-and-shoot it you mentioned yeah right.

That is because, because with other phones, if the camera is let's say, subpar or not amazing, it's something we could look past, but when it comes to the pixels, it's called a pixel for crying out loud when the camera makes the experience. So obviously, when I pick up a pixel, just like I did with the pixel 1 a pixel to that camera makes the experience yeah. That's the reason why I feel the way I feel, so I can look past the other, so questions because, I haven't seen anyone, and maybe it's just reviews or whatever. How is video on this because it speaks of to video, was trash. I didn't think pixel to video was trash, I didn't think pixel to eyes only on the front facing cameras.

I think it was like hey, not great pieces of video. For me, audio was not good. It was better for me than most other phones. The only one who didn't stand up to be a Samsung inside of Samsung or LG. I did have an OD at the time, and the video quality for me was not good.

I haven't tested video, yet just asking what I find is that the features of video on a phone, because I already have slightly lower expectations for smartphone video compared to my DSLR, compared to even let's say, a GoPro 7 yeah? So if the features are usable to the sense that they're reliable, then I like that, so if I have a niche or a specific shot, I want to get I'll pull out the phone because I know it'll. Do it well, yeah slo-mo, on the pixel to more reliable than any other slim theories. Are that, for example, reason I ask is because my mindset is always is like, as we asked me anything else. This is the camera everybody has you know whatever you hold you in your hands' camera. So for me, when, when using the pixel to my issue, was the OAS DI ass were not talking, Turner they're, not yeah, they were never talking to even there's more shakiness on the pixel to than I remember, but then I wanted the pixel.

Yeah, I did and then the because there was now is on the pixel 1. It was only working alone and then the when I was recording in low-light. The amount of grain in the video was just no, but you have to understand like because of the size of the sensor to if it's physically. It's nearly impossible to get better video in low-light. Get that's the right problem.

You put one and ask you for one: you did it yourself? No, it's its! No! No! But that's what it is. He doesn't I, don't literally no smartphone can can can account for that. No, no! No! No I grade you on what you did and where you price. If you wanted to get better, you can change the sensor. It's not me, I'm, not the one.

Fortunately, I know, but the thing is literally no smartphone can account for the noise that happens, no matter how many cameras, oh no I, know I, know I'm just saying that compared to its competitors with its pricing was, and who was going against, like even the iPhone as much as even I know like iPhone is that the iPhone just did better in video okay, so that what I've seen it's like I'm looking at, are going I, hope being proved I. Would my missions just from 2 to 3 I, want to just listen? We wrap. We can't really dive into that, because you grab my Galaxy S 9, plus video, my review um. What other review know I have like two or three reviews: he's million the words that people cannot tell that part of the footage was filmed on an iPhone 10 on again, oh I, see what you mean yeah on a gimbals. No, no I have to say this like king of photography.

Well, we still need more time with the pixel 3 excel. We still I still need more time. Definitely but king of video I mean give me all the arguments you want about. Lg they've done a better job with their sharpening on the v40, the sharpening on the V 30 and every previous one I, don't care how much of a pundit or an expert you consider yourself to be the video was trash. The video was trash on LAB 30 LG be 20, LG, be 40, got better the processing yeah.

No, no, that is like for me I, don't I could give to three rats. You know what if you've got manual, controls or great audio, those things are great. Those things are secondary of the quality of the video is trash. Then so van said he did a special one. I shut an HDR, oh yeah, it's awful and so V 40 is significantly better than V.

Third, but I still give the crown in video recording to the iPhone sorry wrong wrong wrong. I'd the iPhone does a perfect job. What would be your favorite, the galaxy I'll take them the s9 bus or the note night. It did do a pretty good job. You did the Milan videos in the galaxy s night and I.

Remember: I did well, then you say the b-24 I did because I was what we were using. Yeah, yeah see the peach. What no? How was your experience? I? Have it? I have honestly no I have to say I've used the galaxy for comparison purposes and stabilization and this and that, but I've never really used it as a vlog. The reason I liked it is that also the audio, and you've got quartered. You've got yeah that died yet front.4K, hey primary for the way that I vlog in the way that I, it's the only fun it does this by then yeah for the Hawaii that I've vlogged in the way that I record a video I actually put the note 9 in the pixel to kind of neck and neck. To be honest because the galaxy, the Galaxy Note 9 does have better audio, and it provides more options, but the pixel 2 is literally they take it out, hit record, and I'm good.

Finally, which is what I always enjoyed about it, but it had liked I, don't know if we're still missing a software update on this phone or what, but you've noticed that it's just 1080p. It would like 4k at 30, yeah yeah yeah, no 4k at 60. No, no, even if we've got the snapdragon 845, which is capable of providing not enable, there's, probably gonna, be an update. That's that's why I was asking like obvious. You know what they did.

The other thing that I was saying earlier: that's nothing was I, don't use like we don't have enough special spec sheet. Yet exactly there are still some things. I have to be ironed out here with my abilities, like the capability, the kid the chip has, the capability it does. The chip has just have to enable it. They just have to enable it for hey at 60 is not there, it's not there.

It is, it is missing, I mean it can do. Focused CC can do for cage TR. It just depends on what you want to actually exactly. Perhaps maybe third-party apps from the Play Store would be able to tap into that yeah, probably not yeah. You have to actually exam us be enabled first and which I think that I saw some sort of update will be happening later on.

But the thing is like I, don't use 4k 60, so I upon amuse 4k 60 like it. It provides like so long as you've got enough light, because, obviously it's the reason why I don't use it because, obviously it kills it like. You need more shutter speed. Eh, phones are awful at like a 4k at 60 at daylight like for handheld shots. It provides so much smoothness like it is so good, like and one of the reasons why, even if you've got like, for example, things that disappoint me about the v40.

You've got four kids 60, no stabilization, no civilization and the video, and then when you do have 4k at 30 wit, stabilization. There is so much war penis. While you walk that it's like God guys, you had one job and that's the thing about the v40 that I've been learning after using again. Thank you for letting me use your yeah unit by the way is that each lens has a purpose, but everything else is turned off like the whiting goes, fixed focus be zoom is fixed, focus the front facing camera. The 90 that the 10 extra degrees, which I think is ridiculous, is only really for photos, so there's no way you're going to use it for video.

So this is to be it works in video. It does, but I don't like it with the v4 this one's much wider. Let me just say that yeah. Do you fare with the v40, and I'm not going to mud dissing Qualcomm here, but I think this is just me? Speculate, there's no pure scientific inside is that I don't think the SOC is ready, for it can do three lenses. I, don't think it's ready for three lenses may be some difference, see because if you think about say funny, yes, that it's true, so I remember, the 820 was the first one that allowed dual cameras yeah, but it wasn't fully yeah because you think about even like, while we 70, which the p20 Pro runs and has three lenses.

What about that necessarily one runs, is monochrome and strictly more so basically, it's its not all working yeah, exactly switches to do monochrome and because it tells these monochrome mental you know done, and the other two lenses are doing what it's then two lenses so, and we also know with a lease with we don't with the rumors referred from 980 greater performance there, which means it should land to be lenses as the rumors up sure yeah. No, so that's why I am going. Maybe LG in a sense is to the detriment is like you try to jump ahead, but the SOC is just not ready, just like in the case of Sony, where they do that play with RAM to be able to give you 960 yeah totally. You know they mean like, so she's, not capable, but they push it through. Ram Samsung does the same only, and you know what we're getting there, and obviously we thought that the smartphone industry was like stagnating, and it really was a year or two ago, but now we're getting to a place where things are happening that make me excited for.

What's coming next, now and I think well, who was I talking to about this I was like we got whiting on the front. Finally, now the next frontier is OAS on the front. That's why what we had well may we had, it would be HTC we had it wasn't white. No! No! It was the HTC One, which one sure am not the previous pretend on before the intent and yeah PA did, but it wasn't why they were going with beer ultrapixel en yeah. I was the problem.

I was a problem at that one yeah. No, not not that wasn't wide I mean wasn't as wide as you would probably like, which is what I mean this is why button, but it was the problem with the quality. There was the fact that was ultra pixel. Not it wasn't looked if they went with this wide Europe, probably going like okay, this is, you know, would have been so into a complete bro, be like okay, maybe well, but it's the same company, its HTC, better direction with better direct and I. Think that I think honestly, there are growing pains.

Obviously I mean we. We had a whole heated discussion about earlier, like there are growing pains, but we're getting there, and again I'm excited. So let me continue praising the pixel stupid little things. What looks at this so like when you that's right, and so, when you press the power button, the clock automatically lives. So it looks like if there were like it looks like if it is the you notice.

How always on this place are like you turn the screen off. It's completely black and then boom. It seems up the always-on display. Furthermore, it's seen. This is like seamless like it looks like if it is looks like if the screen never really turns off.

Yeah, it's nice. Actually, it is sweet like the user interface I, I like it like I, have no complaints over Android P and just the whole approach that Google does so. Okay, so here's the thing we render it be that I have liked. It still needs some tuning done it, so I'm, not a fan of new OS. Okay.

This is interesting. So nine to five Google published the dirty word. Android wasn't set a single time during the Google Pixel three of them interesting. Well that lends to the whole that might lend to the whole rumor or not remotely some prominent of be the next version of OS. That Andromeda Drummond is madness, all right, fuchsia, so it might be the first.

It doesn't roll off the tongue as well. Hmm, it doesn't roll up. It's its. A drama, fuchsia might be still internal name, but it's the way of going so remember. This was happened with Google right, ah Android.

As soon as a name was owned by Samsung this time, when people bought an Android phone Allah go, you got a Samsung. You know you see that he had a Samsung before that I was bought a roll. Oh, you've got a droid right, yeah he's refused, yet he had a droid and then something to go over because he had an iPhone or droid iPhone or Samsung yeah, and the one with Samsung lasted for quite a while, and they had to try and get that name back yeah. So the pixel brand comes into play. Yeah, but I think that, because of fuchsia coming in they're, probably vocally trying to take away that naming process so that they can switch over, which is something Google tends to do.

Okay, they tend to leave things that they create and move on to the next one, nothing that they are not focusing on developing this, but maybe on their own. The PR side on the name inside the device it's going. Okay might be a little different. Yeah, might be time for us to move away from this all right. Well, my it might be time for us to move away from these guys.

We've gone for a solid hour, I think we've done it, and you know heated discussion. Do we provide a final verdict on the razor phone? No I mean we can't no, no, not a review verdict, but I, like it, I mean I down for gaming man. That's why one for the Exxon, when I look I want that controller. Razor was the name of that right. You right! You put a ride.

Furthermore, you ride you that, yes to ride you, it's a play on the word. No, it's not! As you hide you thank you and what said something else I would bite. You are that's a that's a drink right. So hide you. Yes, yes, I'm, looking forward to gaming on it, but razor you need.

You need to make sure this controller gets in the hands of as many people as possible, so that developers can start making games that are geared towards the controller, and we can start getting games like first-person shooters on the on Android and iOS. Yeah, has to happen because, as of right now we don't have certain game genres that are prevalent in in in mobile gaming, because the controls suck that's one thing and then the second thing is like I get it fortnight is awesome, like all these games are great I need one of these games that I don't need to be playing like I want to play on a plane and single-player games need to start becoming more prevalent. Yeah, yeah I mean I, there's enough storage on the damn phone. For me to not have to be permanently connected. No I do agree with you, guys I think it's.

It has to be a balance of both be better got the single-player games. I am just excited to see more chroma, no I mean more. Yes, all right, I did joke around em I said you guys were pretty tame. You didn't put chroma lighting around the whole of the device, but you just put it there. These are smiled and said you know what we thought about it, but it's okay.

You know III want to see that make sure of gaming where, because, like I said, I'm really excited about X cloud from Microsoft. Well, NVIDIA has their own cloud services and the fact that, like a device like this, the razor phone and I have a ride. You with me right whether it's on the plane, and I'm playing the single-player game. You know I'm good or the fact that I've got fast internet with gigabit, LTE and I can play a first-person. Shooter I can play Halo I can play.

You know Tomb Raider, whatever the game is off my phone and I think that's the thing that I think the next key factor that this device. So you know, we've always said that we've got computers in the hands. But, let's be honest right. We don't treat it as computers in children has high level personal devices that have great performance, yeah, not computers. The fact that I think, when we get to that point where gaming Plus even VR, like this kind of things where you know what you can either buy a VR headset or you know what your snapdragon powered device or whether it's your carrying power device, it's powerful enough to give you that VR experience, you always know, that's where you go, I truly have it in my pocket and I can actually but I.

Think what is the devices like razor because they've gone to add you know the display, the audio or even our special devices like the iPhone or the galaxy, where we know: okay, fine, it's preview, yeah, you're spending, the most amount of money. I think that's when the justification of some of these prices, where just because an iPhone is a thousand, but I know that iPhone can do all these X things for me, then I go it's worth my time, alright, fair enough! Now, for the last five minutes there are a few other products that we did see at the pixel event. In particular, we were talking a little about the accessories at the razor event. So we kind of covered all of those the chroma wireless dock, we're all looking forward to messing with that. I'll tell you that much yeah, but speaking of wireless chargers.

There is a new wireless charger that is supposed to go with the pixel. It's a company, the pixel, the pixels stand, oh I haven't, haven't pulled it out of them, neither have I, and this is the whole idea that Google home is supposed to be prevalent across all possible products. So what you're basically doing is converting your pixel 3 into a smart display of sorts and, of course, talking about smart displace, there's also the Google Home Hub, so I thought that maybe for the last five minutes of the show, we could just give some hot takes on the other products. No, the home hub for me was particularly I thought it was bigger. Like if it's yeah all of you away, he's tiny I, think you know what happy no, when I looked at it, I was expecting something like the Lenovo one and then, when I saw it, I was like that's cute, okay, so here's the thing I small.

It is I, think Google just didn't, say it, but they wanted to at the Google home ad. The old version is dead, and this is the new Google home 145 bucks. It's very easy to get it's literally the price of a Google home. Now you've got a screen. You've got everything.

No no I mean look, I ordered my big soul yeah, but I am very disappointed in the screen size though I don't know how BIG's asked me know. It's like a 7-inch tablet would like a doc in the back. Yes, I mean I, don't know what the don't know. What the screen size is and I didn't. Do.

Now is it small? It's all in the Lenovo is definitely smaller, and I'm disappointed. Well, because. You use the Lenovo as a literal, secondary screen, yeah, yeah, and they're whole. The whole idea behind the presentation was that you're using the hub to activate other things like Chromecast yeah, what's kind of their main thing, yeah um, you can play YouTube on it. No no I know I get it I, just put a Clean in your kitchen and cast to it, and that's it.

No, exactly! No, no I'm thinking! Let's see this is the problem. We need to have a show about techies and consumers and why we don't think like that. I tried not to think like myself, because what I can do I, don't need any of that. For me, that's how you can convert into the kernel. No I totally agree with you just saying that's what they were saying: I do get I, just don't I personally, don't even need a screen.

I just need this. You know I love, it I really bought it. But when I put the speaker, I mean the Nova one in the house, I'd go oh great, because I did a video in my video was all about being making french scrambled eggs and watching the step-by-step process. You needed that. No, it was it scrambled.

Eggs II know it's very different, but we're just watching the process. Right is its a from 7 inches or whatever the screen size for home. Up to this one is: is it different thing and for the consumer? That's my own concern. Usually, if you have a bigger size, the problem, but also it is, it is just big enough that you can still do those things comfortably yeah, no I like it, I want one I didn't order it, but I'm going to order. It definitely did you open your Chromecast.

Of course, I did okay, it's in the back. So what's what's the update on this one, because I didn't pitch I had no idea fabric like the design, no idea yeah, they really didn't give a lot of a lot, like refresh we've updated to match everybody else. Kind of I. Now remember what you wanted to talk about the buds that came in the box with the pixel, so look forward to an actual review of the buds that come in the box, because I was excited when I saw the league because I feel like the only person that actually liked the Pixel Buds when they came out. Yes, yes, I think you like him more than even the Google employees, yeah I, actually like them.

Now again, the usage of a product colors, the way that I view the entire thing were they comfortable no, after about an hour, I wanted to take them out every single time. They would never have stayed in my ears tomorrow, but let me say that the way Google Assistant was implemented in This is the way it should be in every single headphone that has Google Assistant in it. Well, but now they're doing it like you have that integration and, for example, the LG tones like you, didn't you don't need wires for the bows. So I was gonna. Ask you so, but it doesn't have that integration I, don't know it doesn't have that integration and so a question.

Do the Sony's, the Mark threes, have it its job, those triggers it. Okay. So literally, when you press it becomes like a walkie-talkie to the Google Assistant, if you don't have to wait for King yeah. The reason why I don't know this is that when I got the buds last year, I tried to send it out myself. Zack David and Fisher tried to set it up with three phones, and it didn't work, and I could only completely trash eventually recent I set it up and with the pixel ? yeah.

Oh, really many imagine set up with you with the galaxy, so you should try, and the audio have everything was or have they sent you the LG tones, the new platinum, the new platinum is easy. Yeah, okay, try the Google Assistant on that I, it's so cool like it's little. It's probably what I was like wait. A second, so I thought it was just the button where you call on the Google Assistant and that's it, and I'm like well. We've been able to just press and hold on the icon, X 2018 then just call on Bixby or whatever, but this is an intersectional intuitive way of doing it's a different approach.

Can you explain it yeah? Basically, whenever you get some sort of notification on your phone, you can set up which apps it gets it that that trigger it. Yeah Google Assistant will chime immediately and read to you immediately what it is that you got a notification. Also so, basically, it's closer to her right, the movie a little yeah, all right, all right, yeah, and so, for example, if I get a message from one of you guys on messenger, it'll go notification from messenger in a bomb Baba, okay, and if you wish to respond press the button and I go boom, and it goes. Would you like to say and I go? Nobody goes got it. This is what you want to say bubble, but would you like to press the button boom? It's not this whole voice-activated, Android, auto typing that I despise yeah.

Where it's like. Do you want to send it or change it, and I'm like send it? What would you like to say send if it's, so it types scented, and it ask again: would you like to send it or change it I get that they wanted, use that as a different station point and Google. If you're watching this, you probably are because you're watching, don't pocket now know my channel, don't make it a differentiation point on your product. This has to be standard, but it is so here's a thing. I, don't know.

I know I use and that scones you said on the tones but wait JBL, cheap, yeah, yeah, but I'm saying it like I, don't know about the mark, 3, so I'm going to test it when I get to when I get to the hotel, because I brought my mark threes yeah but like if you get those LG tones, platinum, SE, yeah so I tested them on the gallon, though I didn't test them on the Galaxy Note 9 I tested them on the v40 work, just fine pixel to TO work, just fine, because this is a back-end, that's built into Google, exactly and so actually, okay, okay, so you have to download a version of the Google Assistant to the tones. So it's got like its own chip. It's crazy, SH musician devices exactly, so it requires certain hardware from the device. Also, it shouldn't probably have at least two buttons to make those yeah definitely, but no like it was I. Also I was like so first I.

Remember when I activate him for the first time, and they're like you, need to activate the cool assistant, thingy, and so I'm like yeah, so I went through the process, and then it's like updating firmware for your tones, and so you had to keep them connected and keep them closed and then boom it threw it in, and then it reset at the tones that it started in boom, like immediately I was like I. Just genius I should give you one more user. I should give you one more usability feature. Is the volume up button when you hold it, it will read out every notification. You have okay, and then you let go whenever you want to stop listening to it.

Don't ask. Is this bad news? Do you guys think that Google I think oh I personally think? But what do you guys think about this, but should Google take especially with assistant, because I think that's their best operating system right now, Chrome, no I think that's their best under system. Do you think they should take the same approach as Microsoft in making sure that it delineates across it? So EMS Windows does it perfectly Windows on on, especially now is the same across the board and I think this is the best operating system, because Alexa is coming for them awful. It's coming really strong pressure really Reba, because I was on those, we don't have a traditional way, or we have a future OS trend, and they are making sure is everywhere. So if Google goes look, we've got a phone OMS and the phone is in every hand.

We have to make sure that yeah that's a good way. That's a good point. Wait wait a second, since you mentioned Chrome OS lots on the pixel slate hot takes because. We got a yeah, I love it that's a big old screen. It is a big screen.

I can lay this. The back is terrible. It is so fingerprint prone. Oh really, it is bad. I heard that the folio case it's not completely flush like it's got this weird sort of like give to it.

When you close it, it was okay, it was okay like it was like the Galaxy Tab s for okay. Unless less bulky, I can't really give an opinion on it, because I actually have never used chrome, OS extensive know, so I've been using the pixel book lately. Thank you whoever sent me the tip on Twitter, whoever you are you're you're sent from God to remember a name by the two to remember how to figure out how to remove the caps lock from being the launcher. That's right, I mean I've said that literally broke. That literally fix my experience with Lois ever since then, because I was like it's a fricking caps, lock keyboard.

How is that the launcher? Don't reinvent the wheel? They did that's what they did. I mean you've got the dysfunction fees. I was like why this is why I don't use grab-ass uh, so, okay, so the whole locate. So I am NOT a fan of Chrome OS I love that you've got a desktop browser on it. I just I, really wanted a good iPad alternative I feel that Windows 10 is great.

It's just I. Don't know it wasn't really, even if it was, they say that it was design. It wasn't I feel Chrome OS. With this update, that's coming on the slate. It looks more like a tap friendly operating system that can still do multitasking that can still do Android applications, um I liked it I really do like I, just can't say much about using Chrome OS.

Honestly, that's all really hasn't. Take a look at it. I just think the pricing is ? I. What was the price again? Look if you want to get the i7, you spend a thousand bucks yeah. No, no and that's the problem like Google.

You really haven't under ball port, so I can put my GPU I know it's got it's good, but it's got some, but it's not Windows. It's got. Two USB-C port switch is a first on a tablet. It was got more than the surface one more than two more two more than the Surface Pro. That has none, because it's a USB, a yeah, so I don't write myself right, come on.

No, no I, I have to say I'm, not I'm. We need good competitors to the iPad. We just do a hundred percent. Furthermore, we do I mean I can't believe that the iPad still continues to be the tablet I drift to simply because it's the most well executed tablet there is I mean III, do hear you coming from somebody, and I'm from that segment that doesn't give an about tablets. IEP rely on tablets and everyday I know, that's you know, but like I know, and I and I do agree with you.

I do hate the fact that Google slept on and also just and our towers. It died that I grew gray. Windows was never really meant to windows were meant for touch, not tablet functionality, but just touch, and- and that's fine with me, like I- think that's fine I, think that was it. I do agree with that aspect that Android tablets, if he just needed one solid, fine-tuning and then moving, and they just never in true Google fashion, just let it die and but I am I. The only thing I have to say Google um I am expecting my pixel slate and I will plan to use it.

Just do yourself a favor just you know you, your feet just set them on the floor. This is not a $1000 product. It's not mm-hm Chrome OS, it's not a $1000 product and on that note, as the camera runs out of SD card space, you're, seeing some black space right now as I. Do the outro for this long episode, great conversation between myself, Jaime and thunder I over here. That's it! For now the weekly is just as much a conversation as it is a show so make sure you make your voices heard either in the comment sections or by emailing us at podcast at pocketnow.

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